Posted on 02/26/2024 5:23:41 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
Apparently one can give an oath of office and immediately do “whatever” afterwards as nothing is done to dissuade such.
But honestly, there should be penalties.
Your relationship to God determines the legality of an Oath.
I’m not a lawyer, and I do not play one on TV. But there is already a remedy for those public officials who break their oaths. It’s impeachment. Some states also have a recall option.
It’s a high hurdle to impeach and remove an official on the federal level. I suppose it’s the same in most states. Is it good that the hurdle is so high? I dunno. A decent argument can be made either way.
Full Agreement !!!
Who is one swearing to? Witnesses, God?
What about the Oath of Citizenship? If it’s not binding, then what’s the point?
Sorry for the questions. I don’t mean to hijack.
In the common oath as referenced above, God is not mentioned.
Both theologically and philosophically it is an intriguing situation.
On the one hand the Creator is set forth as the ultimate Authority in our founding documents, but those same documents disallow specificity in that respect.
Normal people have a sense of it, but those seem few in number these days.
What about the oath of military service?
Legally Binding or Not?
Is an oath to tell the truth as a witness in a trial not essentially the same? I think what matters is who is there to hold oath breakers accountable?
Those are good and thoughtful questions. No hijack there.
We live in a fallen world with a battle of consciences, or lack thereof.
Every fallen soul has a hunger for power, and so can easily abuse an oath.
It seems like laws related to perjury would come into play, but DANG. Slick Willie and all that.
The Constitution says oaths and affirmations are binding, per Article 6.
Yup.
If I had a time machine, I’d drag the founders forward to show them what needed to be reworded to not have any “wiggle room” for idiots to pull crap.
One of those things, exactly what Patrick Henry mentioned.
Morally binding is a very different matter
I in no way want to challenge you on that, but politely request you post the pertinent text here so we can review it and thank you for the same.
I have a separate Freepmail pointing to some code as well.
Here is the thing: HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY HAVE PEOPLE HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION WHO ADVOCATE THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR CITIZENS?
Not sorry for the shouting.
There is a principle of business of integrity. We can not trust our government.
Legally AND morally binding in my opinion.
That’s my sense of it, but . . . how to parse out the difference between “legal” and “moral.”
As a simple person I would hope the two to be synonymous unless I lived in Nazi Germany.
Similarly, it seems to me that a promise made by a politician, in return for one’s vote, becomes a contract once the vote is cast. If the politician then fails to perform in accordance with his promise, why is that not an actionable breach of contract?
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