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To: Red Badger

OK, but can it make it to grandma’s house with a full load in the winter?


17 posted on 02/18/2024 6:58:21 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Socon-Econ
I cannot understand the Electric Vehicle idiocy.

What is it with people who are all in on this asinine pell mell rush towards a cliff to jump off with the "technology"? I have to conclude it is a mass psychosis of some kind.

I concede there are some very narrow ownership parameters where an EV makes sense for a few people, but those generally involve people who are not using their car to drive more than a limited number of miles each day.

Just the other day, I saw where Sacramento is going to mandate no new gas stations can be built in that city unless EV charging in equal capacity is installed as well.

There is an Engineer from Australia with an excellent, informative, and entertaining YouTube channel on cars in general, but his specialty is highlighting, from a common sense perspective, why EV technology is not going to survive its current iteration:

LINK: MGUY Australia YouTube Channel

In the case of this stupid California, and he posted a graphic of why this endeavor by a California municipality is completely stupid and unworkable, as displayed in this graphic below that shows what kind of electric infrastructure would be required to make an EV Charging bank of stations that would be comparable to the standard 20 pump gas station that is often seen near interstates in the USA.

In it, he makes the Worst case scenario (6 cars per hour, per gas pump, which REALLY underestimates it) for ICE cars and calculates that a standard 20 pump gas station could serve 120 cars a day:

To be able to charge 120 EV's a day (again, comparable to a 20 pump gas station) a charge provider would need to build 90 (NINETY!) chargers, and these would have to be the most high end variety of the kind that could charge a car in 45 minutes (such as the Tesla chargers which can supposedly charge a Tesla in 30-45 min)

That's NINETY chargers for the same throughput capacity.

From MGuy's video: "...For one, the cost of buying the equipment and installing it can be obscene. A very basic 50 kW station that many would barely consider to be fast charging can cost $50,000 per stall. Faster ones that make the drivers of the latest EVs happier can cost as much as $200k per unit. When you need to get at least four stalls to make for both capacity and redundancy, these costs approach $1 million at the low end when considering the other needed construction and power upgrades to get them all put in. Worse, it's probably necessary to put in 8 or 16 stalls (if not more) to make room for future growth... So, at the minimum, to get the same capacity to recharge EV as to refill ICE, you would have to spend $18 MILLION dollars to achieve that. Or, I suppose you could go middle of the road and get the mid-level charging stations which would cost $4.5 million dollars to build.

On top of that insanity, for the fastest chargers, it isn't hard to see EV drivers queuing up. Do you need to build an even bigger parking lot area to contain them as they wait? What will be the system to get people to a pump without having fights break out?

Never mind NONE of this even talks about the grid infrastructure needed for that one station, equivalent to the electricity demands of 1,800 average residential dwellings per day.

Don't forget to factor in the increased catastrophic depreciation of EV value over time, and the repair costs which average double, as long as you don't scratch the battery pack by grounding on a curb or getting into an accident, which can total the car.

But wait...there's more. EVs may become catastrophically expensive to insure, due to the possibility of battery damage which can total the car, or a battery fire that can take down an entire building it may be parked in. Increasingly, EVs which are prone to fires will not be allowed on ferries, be allowed to park in garages for just that reason.

But hey. We are all going to flock to buy a stylish looking Communist Chinese EV even if it contains the worst of Communist Chinese made batteries. And we will end up with EV graveyards just like they have in Communist China:


18 posted on 02/18/2024 7:05:43 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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