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What do we make of the Apple Vision Pro
Apple, Inc. ^ | Jan 25 | RF

Posted on 01/25/2024 9:20:47 PM PST by RandFan

Next week it comes out.

I think it's interesting and could change things.

Apple are hyping it up as their biggest product launch since iPhone.

They call it "spatial" computing.

Unfortunately I dont have a spare 4k.

What do Freepers make of it? Probably not the target audience but do you see it taking off?

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To: RandFan

41 posted on 01/26/2024 5:20:07 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

They made the Unix shell useful for those without a technical background or not choosing to become one. The whole iPod, music store, cloud infrastructure with the Apple Store, iPhone, iPad was a huge innovatio. Breaking the carrier’s hold on phone ownership was a tremendous move forward for consumers. One could list six or seven major innovations one could tie to Apple that today we take for granted.


42 posted on 01/26/2024 5:32:57 AM PST by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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To: RandFan

I could buy 3-4 computers for that price...


43 posted on 01/26/2024 5:41:09 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: RandFan

I hope they have buckets ready. That thing will induce motion sickness in a lot of people.


44 posted on 01/26/2024 5:52:09 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: RandFan

First, nothing wrong with the black guy in the commercial, except he acts overly wowed.
The white girl is not supposed to be his girlfriend, and the first photos he looks at are of a black woman.
I think they are very subtly suggesting its uses for porn.
The headset is pretty good but still a headset.


45 posted on 01/26/2024 6:00:04 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: trebb

Yes and I’m very much a PC Man anyway.

Believe it or not it’s old fashioned. Most folk now on their phones and other devices.


46 posted on 01/26/2024 6:17:48 AM PST by RandFan
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To: Vermont Lt

The dinosaur and the movies look kind of cool/good with it.

I think that will be its application/use

Is that worth 3.5k? I doubt it ...


47 posted on 01/26/2024 6:21:18 AM PST by RandFan
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To: Williams

I wouldnt want to use it for porn. Can you imagine your mom or wife walking in on you with the headset on and never letting you know what they saw.


48 posted on 01/26/2024 6:26:20 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: 4Runner
Wait until all the high-end mf’ers try to drive with these things strapped to their stupid heads.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Imagine on a pitch black rainy night that you can see like it's a bright day.

49 posted on 01/26/2024 7:08:30 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: RandFan

50 posted on 01/26/2024 7:09:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RandFan

I’d like to try it. If the resolution is sufficient to make a virtual multi-monitor setup, then I’d use it when coding.


51 posted on 01/26/2024 8:01:35 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: steve86
I'm afraid I'd get nauseated which I can mildly do while really getting into just a curved monitor

I can be prone to motion sickness as well. You will not find me salmon fishing out on the ocean in a small boat on a breezy day. However, once I get used to an activity this tends to go away.

My wife and I flew hundreds of hours when we first got our Piper Cherokee airplane. We used to fly it about a thousand miles to Southern California frequently to ride the roller coasters at Magic Mountain, Disneyland, Knots Berry Farm, Universal Studios and other places. When I was a kid those types of rides used to make me sick on occasion, but with all the flying we were doing this went away.

If you had enough of an interest in using VR devices and applications, you would most likely get over your tendency toward nausea once you got used to them.

This of course has its limitations. About the same time we were frequent roller coaster riders, I went hang gliding with some friends in the mountains on a warm day. There was ample lift everywhere and I ended up thousands of feet above the launch site. I had been sucking down lots of water from my hydration pack and after a while I really had to pee badly. My harness was expensive and practically new and I did not want it smelling like urine.

I flew out over the large lake that was next to the landing area and started doing who knows tight turns in a steep spiral to lose altitude. I didn't notice the effects of this while in the air, and I still managed to do a good landing. But by the time I finally made it to the ground I was so dizzy I could barely walk and I almost vomited. And I was still queasy in the car on the way back home. Something got a little screwed up in my inner ear. It makes me a little nausea just thinking about it.

52 posted on 01/26/2024 8:08:09 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

A flight simulator would be a pretty good use case for this. Also probably FPS games. For everyday stuff, not so much.


53 posted on 01/26/2024 8:12:53 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: steve86
Plus my CPU, even though a 10th gen Core i5, really isn't totally up to it.

Yes, I am planning on putting together a desktop “gaming machine” with a powerful GPU to handle the load that VR generates. The complete setup will still cost less than the new Apple device and will be much more versatile.

The graphics that MSFS 2020 can generate with good equipment is phenomenal, and a whole lot cheaper than flying even your own airplane.

54 posted on 01/26/2024 8:17:05 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: zeugma
A flight simulator would be a pretty good use case for this. Also probably FPS games. For everyday stuff, not so much.

Most Flight Simmers use X-plane on their Macs and I am going to guess that this may also be possible one day on the Apple Vision Pro. Currently there are no flight simulators on the list of apps that you can use on it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apple-vision-pro-all-the-apps-that-will-and-wont-run-on-the-mixed-reality-headset/

This limitation is why you won't find me standing in line at the Apple Store.

55 posted on 01/26/2024 8:27:22 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Fly fishing, hiking, metal detecting and hunting in the wilderness will never be subverted. I will always have my side of the mountain no matter how many gadgets I also have.


56 posted on 01/26/2024 11:22:12 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: fireman15

Curiously, I had no nausea problems while taking aerobatics training in a Citabria nor while flying normally. But there’s something about being still while eyes are seeing apparent motion. The incongruity goes right to my stomach. I loved extreme roller coasters but couldn’t handle “motion on a screen” type rides.

Also, on the subject of hardware to run MS2020 (or 2024), you might want to spend some quality time on topical technical forums. The increase in performance isn’t always linear with increasing cost or capability of hardware components. You will see users of even top-end hardware complaining about performance problems. I believe that optimizing the simulator is equally important to choice of hardware.

This is not the main FS2020 forum but I had it in my bookmarks:

https://premiumbuilds.com/features/microsoft-flight-simulator-2020-performance-benchmark-analysis/


57 posted on 01/26/2024 12:25:21 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86

Currently, I am running MSFS2020 on a Ryzen 5 2500u laptop with 16GB of RAM without a separate GPU. This does not meet the minimum requirements. It took a lot of tweaking and troubleshooting to just keep it from crashing. But now I am getting very good results at 1600x900 resolution at about 20 fps which is actually fine for me.

I am looking forward to getting a more powerful computer.

I have been prone to motion sickness in the past in certain situations. For me after a certain amount of time I have always gotten past this and have few problems after that. I already had hundreds of hours in hang gliders and ultralight aircraft before I went after my private pilots license. The winter and spring that I took lessons had a lot of bad weather... so much so that they always joked that they didn’t think the weather was bad enough for me when I showed up to rent a plane. But despite my previous experience I still got queasy quite a few times when we were got bounced around.


58 posted on 01/26/2024 1:12:14 PM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: RandFan

Think Tony Stark with his 3D holographic computer designing stuff…

Like everything thing else, this is an introduction. An expensive one one I grant you, but well done from everything else.


59 posted on 01/26/2024 1:12:28 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: fireman15

So were you one of those hang gliders I used to see around Mt. Si and also Lake Chelan?


60 posted on 01/26/2024 1:36:57 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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