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EVERY time we debate “them” we make the presumptive mistake that we’re dealing with honest differences in belief and ideology

The other side has no “ideology” other than raw, absolute and in your face power-a prospect abhorrent to all but sociopaths. They have been on a “long march” in this country since the 1920’s ...taking over one American institution after another...vacuuming up its financial resources in preparation for their assault on the next. That’s all thats happened here to Boeing. They now “own” its resources and will bend them to their ends.

All of us want to distract ourselves from facing that reality, and talk about the peripherals, the ancillaries, the whatever topics they will happily engage you, for as many elections cycles as you want to pretend otherwise, for as long as you want, while another million or 2 “voters” cross the border....go right ahead. Have at it. they’ll be delighted to entertain you as it precludes your stopping them with the force and power required to subdue their intent.

these kinds of problems are rarely solved by “talking” or “voting”, for that matter. we are about to find out if some kind of a “great awakening” somehow can transcend all this -

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Well, they do have ideologies such as transcrap, destroy farmland, remove free speech, and on and on. They want utter control which is the only way they would be able to accomplish all this.

Voting would take care of the problem IF we had clean elections. The majority of Americans do NOT want their agenda. And their resources will be taken care of by various means - one is Trump’s EO regarding taking assets of those involved in Global Corruption and Human Trafficking and THe EO about interence in elections. Those EOs were very, very broad.

Second, many of their assets are indirectly (or directly) from fed gov $$$. With Trump back in office, this will get removed.