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To: Mr Rogers

Can you explain why, and how, idiot, that generations of Americans were taught, in all the institutions of higher learning, that natural born meant born of citizen parents, as demonstrated directly in the Naturalization Act of 1790. Just how could all these deeply trained scholars in American history got it so wrong and idiots like you so easily got it so right.

I don’t know what is in it for you idiots. It must be that you are all from Bombay, India, and just can’t wait to have anti-American Hindu to be president.

If born in allegiance simply means born under the authority of the king, then you intend to mean that all those babies born of illegal aliens in this country are natural born citizens. It takes a complete idiot to believe that is what the Founders had in mind, when they were so strict, that citizenship only descended through the father, as spelled out in the Naturalization Act of 1790.

Also, the rules of citizenship of another country has no bearings on the rules of citizenship in this country. We have never had a king and most of our laws were written in defiance and opposition of all that goes with kingship.


158 posted on 01/21/2024 5:32:31 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

“Can you explain why, and how, idiot, that generations of Americans were taught...”

Most were not. But those who were taught that were being taught from Vattel - except they didn’t know Vattel NEVER WROTE THAT. Vattel was considered an outstanding source of info on international law and the bad American translation of 1797 was the only version most American lawyers would have had access to.

However, most lawyers who STUDIED the issue repeatedly concluded what the US Supreme Court said in Wong Kim Ark, with their long and detailed analysis of what the term ACTUALLY meant.

“then you intend to mean that all those babies born of illegal aliens in this country are natural born citizens.”

Nope. If you are here illegally, then by definition you are not here under the authority of the government. Or “in amity”, as the Wong Kim Ark decision called it. Those born to illegal aliens are more aligned with those born to a foreign invading army, which Wong Kim Ark noted had never been considered NBC.

You are full of bombast and personal attacks, but you can’t be bothered to read a few paragraphs and find out why NO COURT has ever backed a birther. It is simple: Birthers are wrong on the facts. Period.

You can call me names, but you will never win a court case and, post-Obama, 99% of Americans don’t give a rat’s rear end about your ravings. Suck it up, buttercup!


159 posted on 01/21/2024 7:22:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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