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To: noiseman

Don’t go there with the name calling and the guilt by association.

Do the work.

There are some excellent books on this topic if you really want to dig deeply into the details—blow by blow, lie by lie, component by component:

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Moon-Whistle-Blowers-Mary-Bennett/dp/0932813909

https://www.amazon.com/One-Small-Step-Great-Dominate/dp/1905570120

The best website on the topic—scientists and engineers who do not depend on .gov funding so they can speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth:

https://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm


64 posted on 01/15/2024 2:22:50 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg
Don’t go there with the name calling and the guilt by association.

Do the work.

There are some excellent books on this topic if you really want to dig deeply into the details—blow by blow, lie by lie, component by component:

I’ve read all of the typical arguments before, with the primary one usually being that it is “impossible” for humans to survive a trip through the Van Allen radiation belts (the answer is that they did receive an extra dose of radiation, but manageable because they only spent a short time transiting). I’ve also seen the question about why we have no telescope images of the lunar landers on the moon (it’s because of the physics of light - no telescope, no matter how large, on Earth can resolve objects on the moon smaller than a few meters. We HAVE now photographed the landers from lunar orbit (much closer) using the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter).

Earlier in my career, I worked for Martin Marietta, before it merged with Lockheed. We worked on projects that spanned the gamut from the space shuttle orbiter, to the Galileo Jupiter probe, to the MX/“Peacekeeper” ICBM, to the early stages of Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative, to “special programs” (which I can’t discuss), to many others. So I know just a little bit about that of which I speak.

I also worked for many years for Denver International Airport (DEN), and I’m very well aware of the many (completely ridiculous) conspiracy theories circulating about that airport. The claims about DEN run the gamut, “It’s really designed to be a prison camp for the new world order”, “They built extra buildings and runways to be used to fly prisoners in, and those are covered with a layer of dirt until needed”, “The weird art in the terminal is a secret message signaling the dark new world order purposes behind the airport”, “There are secret levels below the airport that house aliens”, and that “The main terminal great hall exists to serve as a landing site for UFOs.” I know first-hand how IDIOTIC all of those claims are, yet they persist and it is impossible to convince the “true believers” otherwise. I was all over that site throughout its construction, so I know EXACTLY what is there, and what is not.

Yet I’ve heard very serious and sincere-sounding people claim the most ridiculous things since. I heard one guy claim that his brother worked on the airport construction, and that he swore that they built secret tunnels running from the airport to points all over the Denver area, including one that supposedly extended about 30 miles to the University of Denver. The airport does have multiple levels of tunnels, but one set of tunnels carries the people movers to the concourses, another carries the vehicular traffic and the baggage system, and a third accommodates utilities.

I also remember very serious-sounding people claiming that a “keypad” near the south windows of the terminal was a “secret” control mechanism to open the glass and allow spaceships to glide into the great hall. Um… that “keypad” was nothing more than a wooden plaque on the end of an arm extending upward from the airport’s time capsule. The “keypad” they claimed to see was just braille printing that told blind people what was in the time capsule.

And one of the best ones of all was perpetrated by good old Jesse Ventura. When his show about conspiracies was on the air, Jesse did a show about DEN. One moment that stood out was he and his partner driving one of the airport roads and passing a huge pile of crumbled concrete. Jesse made a big deal of it, along with spooky background music, and speculated that it had something to do with construction of the “underground base.” He said that it made no sense for an airport to have so much concrete piled up, and seemed sure that it was evidence of something strange and sinister.

I knew exactly where they were and what they were actually seeing. It was nothing more than concrete that had been removed from the runways during pavement rehab projects. A number of years ago, a problem was discovered with concrete not only at DEN but in other projects around the country. Some concrete was found to be contaminated with a silica-based material that would cause pockets within the concrete to turn to a jelly-like consistency, weakening it. Over a period of several years, DEN replaced the concrete on several runways and placed the old concrete where Jesse saw it, to await recycling.

It’s so easy to spew baseless conspiracy theories, but takes so much time and effort to dispel them, because reality is usually complex. That doesn’t mean that all conspiracy theories are false, however. We all know of several very real and provable conspiracies recently, from the deep state attempt to derail Trump’s presidency (really a soft coup), to the “vaccine” debacle, to obvious election fraud. Just don’t let the fact that there ARE some real conspiracies lead you into accepting foolish theories about other things that are not true.

65 posted on 01/15/2024 3:31:37 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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