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To: DiogenesLamp
Now that we've established the principle as correct, how do we apply it to Officials who put men in prison where they are raped?

My bringing up this hypothetical scenario is to demonstrate how once again the legal system is inconsistent and dysfunctional.

As I understand it, the typical prisoner is innocent and is working on his appeal. He is a misunderstood youth who was on the cusp of turning his life around when the justice system jumped up and grabbed him.

The only time the misunderstood youth is in contact with the Judicial branch is when he is in the court. When in custodial care, he is guest of the Executive branch. Why some of the alpha males develop a sudden interest in exploring their alternative sexual desires in prison I do not know. I suppose the system could afford each and every one a secure, locked suite of his own, but then there would be a lawsuit for cruel and unusual punishment, and emotional distress. As an alternative we could have the courts declare all the prisons unfit and release the entire prison population onto the street. Looking at our southern border, one may see other countries releasing their prison populations and residents of their insane asylums onto our streets. That brings back memories of Jimmah Carter inviting Castro to release all his political prisoners to America.

Trouble seems to come with the company some people keep. The prison population is not the most desirable. Staying out of prison would be good. The judges only pass sentence, they do not run or supervise the prisons. Do you suggest they do away with prison sentences? Should prisons only accept persons of good moral character? Do you have some solution in mind?

175 posted on 01/19/2024 10:28:01 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher
As I understand it, the typical prisoner is innocent and is working on his appeal. He is a misunderstood youth who was on the cusp of turning his life around when the justice system jumped up and grabbed him.

All the more reason why *THE STATE* should not countenance or condone the rape of prisoners in their custody.

I suppose the system could afford each and every one a secure, locked suite of his own, but then there would be a lawsuit for cruel and unusual punishment, and emotional distress. As an alternative we could have the courts declare all the prisons unfit and release the entire prison population onto the street.

Facetiousness is a dodge of the issue.

The judges only pass sentence, they do not run or supervise the prisons.

Like the Nazis, who claimed they bear no responsibility because they were merely following orders.

I reject their excuse, and I reject the excuse that Judges have no other choice. They are part of the system causing these very unjust outcomes. They are in fact accomplices to crime against people held by the state.

Do you suggest they do away with prison sentences?

I suggest they do not allow prisoners to be raped. How this is accomplished may be a matter of discussion, but the end goal should be that this cannot happen in state custody.

Should prisons only accept persons of good moral character?

Many a true word is said in jest. I think the fundamental problem of crime is that people had not been taught proper morals when they were young.

Thanks to other idiot courts, the State no longer recognizes the need for a just and moral society, and the courts have done everything possible to undermine any effort to steer people in a moral direction.

Do you have some solution in mind?

I have ideas, but they would have to be analyzed further to see if there is anything wrong with them.

My methodology has always been to get everyone to recognize the problem, then brainstorm ideas that might become answers.

179 posted on 01/20/2024 12:44:04 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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