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To: Penelope Dreadful
I did not expect to see that rotting corpse of an argument dug back up.
I didn't think birther arguments would persist after Obama, but here we are.

I like "Magic is the best analogue for Otherlaw. Otherlaw has no
reasoned foundation. In fact, certain examples have no foundation at all!"

In the Ted Cruz case, in Pennsylvania the court stated:

Having extensively reviewed all articles cited in this opinion, as
well as many others, this Court holds, consistent with the common
law precedent and statutory history, that a "natural born citizen"
includes any person who is a United States citizen from birth.

It includes Ted Cruz, born in Canada.

157 posted on 01/18/2024 1:17:18 AM PST by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

For some reason people like him are obsessed with False Reality, whether the idiots who are convinced they need no driver’s license, or the whole Vattel thing. I think whatever the underlying mental condition is, it is the same thing that leads to the whole Transgender thing - just pretend long enough, and it will all come true some day. Mental illness at its best.


161 posted on 01/18/2024 9:05:35 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: woodpusher
In the Ted Cruz case, in Pennsylvania the court stated:

Having extensively reviewed all articles cited in this opinion, as well as many others, this Court holds, consistent with the common law precedent and statutory history, that a "natural born citizen" includes any person who is a United States citizen from birth.

It includes Ted Cruz, born in Canada.

I'm going to cross wire your brain here. :)

Supreme Court. Wong Kim Ark. 1898. Paragraph 113.

Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by n abling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.

So apparently the Wong court thinks Ted Cruz is a naturalized citizen.

Since you slavishly follow what the Courts say, I guess you have a cognitive dissonance problem here. :)

Let me know what you are going to decide that you believe. I'm guessing you are going to regard that part of the Wong court as being wrong, but everything else is correct.

Whatever it takes to allow you to continue believing what you believe.

162 posted on 01/18/2024 9:07:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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