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To: woodpusher
As they were creating a much more powerful central government, they found it convenient to protect against alien born persons attaining control of the U.S. government or armed forces.

The issue wasn't alien "born". The issue was alien loyalty.

Hamilton was Alien born, so was Thomas Paine, and so were many of the early Framers/Founders, but the issue they were concerned about was that of loyalty and allegiance.

None of that is solved with the British derived definition of "citizen", but it is all completely resolved with the Vattel definition of "citizen."

The fact that we use the word "citizen" (uncommon in the English of that era) is a good indication that the intent always was to follow Vattel.

Had they intended to follow English law, they would have kept "subject", which was the usual and common way of describing a member of a nation at the time.

"Citizen" was adopting the Swiss usage, not the English usage.

145 posted on 01/17/2024 8:35:59 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Chester Arthur.


150 posted on 01/17/2024 2:00:56 PM PST by woodpusher
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