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To: DiogenesLamp; woodpusher
I am referring to the Courts declaring Vattel the correct source of natural born citizen

Which Courts declared Vattel to be the "correct source" of natural born citizen?

So too you cannot make a "natural" citizen out of a naturalized citizen...This is where I lose any enthusiasm I may have had for reading his opinion. You can't get this so very wrong and then conceivably produce anything reasonable thereafter.

Precisely because he demonstrates (with sources) the historical instances of the British Parliament doing just that with regards "natural" citizenship. The connection with the common law is essential to that understanding (your incredulity notwithstanding).

108 posted on 01/15/2024 3:22:24 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Which Courts declared Vattel to be the "correct source" of natural born citizen?

The Pennsylvania Supreme court. I would think that was obvious in the context.

Precisely because he demonstrates (with sources) the historical instances of the British Parliament doing just that with regards "natural" citizenship.

He just explained earlier that in the 18th century, "natural" meant without positive law. Parliament creating a statute is the very opposite of "natural."

And at some point we need to get into Calvin's case. I think you need to look at *WHY* Calvin's case was decided as it was, and then maybe you will understand why English "Subject" law is repugnant to US Citizenship.

And while we're at it, i'll throw out this little jewel.


109 posted on 01/15/2024 3:39:43 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; DiogenesLamp
[DiogenesLamp] I am referring to the Courts declaring Vattel the correct source of natural born citizen

[Ultra Sonic 007] Which Courts declared Vattel to be the "correct source" of natural born citizen?

The DiogenesLamp Court of the Imagination™. In that court, whatever he imagines the law should be is instantly transformed into actual law. It is usually detached from reality, but no never mind.

112 posted on 01/16/2024 1:01:32 AM PST by woodpusher
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