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2,212 posted on 01/16/2024 8:47:50 PM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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Twoo wuv. Maybe the left CAN meme (they can't).


2,214 posted on 01/16/2024 8:53:52 PM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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... Dupont ... ozone scam

Tell me, who was the Senator from the State of Dupont, er, Delaware in 1978?

2,222 posted on 01/16/2024 9:07:12 PM PST by AZLiberty (All I want for MLK Day is President Trump back in office (and Kari Lake as my Governor))
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I’ve been relaying that scam for ~35 years LOL.

Our Condo was built in 1972. The air conditioner installed then has R12 in it. I don’t believe it was serviced before we bought the place. We’ve never had it serviced in 30 years of ownership. You could house penguins in our place if it’s running on high. The place 51 years old. IF Refrigerant was/is a significant ozone hazard as long as you are mindful of the servicing and end of life disposal ITS NOT AN ISSUE STILL!

Additionally, the “efficiency” of units is always bantered about like it’s the ecological holy grail. Sorry eco-fools, if you have a unit that electric consumption wise is half as efficient as a modern production, but you have to mine, refine, fabricate and manufacture the modern unit 5+ times over the lifespan of a less efficient unit, the less efficient unit IS MORE ECOLOGICALLY SOUND!

I have small engines that still run from up to nearly 100 years ago. Their design INCLUDED parts and materials for multiple easy rebuilds and overhauls. If taken care of by competent users, they essentially can remain serviceable on a multigenerational scale.

If you optimized the current designs of small engines they could provide similar robustness.

The “disposability” of societies amenaties is something that MUST be extracted out of the economic equation. Manufacturers MUST get back to creating equipment and appliances that last a lifetime of more. Therein lies the “solution” to resources and the environments “issues”...


2,312 posted on 01/17/2024 9:36:09 AM PST by Axenolith (MALITIIS HOMINUM EST OBVIANDUM)
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