[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "You hear hoof beats anc immediately think zebra. I hear hoof beats and think horses and mules"

you Nifster is of the belief Zebra's are real?
That is good. At least you know the injections are not safe or effective. That is one hoof beat forward.

[Nifster]

I see data that for some the injections are not safe. Not true for everyone under every condition