That group is welcome to put a sock in their gobs until they put boots on the ground. Burned-out tanks and mine-shredded armored vehicles don't count. 
Posted on 12/11/2023 2:03:58 PM PST by ganeemead
Biden and nato ready to hang it up...
This is much worse than Dunkirk. This is a candidate for worst military debacle since the HMFIC of Tangut called Genghis Khan a sissy...
An 8-to-1 artillery imbalance and "artillery ammunition starvation" on the part of the NATO puppet Ukies will do that to ya.
That group is welcome to put a sock in their gobs until they put boots on the ground. Burned-out tanks and mine-shredded armored vehicles don't count.
One last thought; Ukraine has been given 10's if not 100's of billions of American dollars, but the poor people of Hawaii, who are American citizens, got $700.00. That is shameful.
“There were more than one pitched battle.”
But it was that one pitched battle you referenced. So, which pitched battle was that?
“If the Ukrainians were doing to well as has be ascribed by the MSM and all the Ukrainian sympathizers, then why haven’t they won the damn wa?”
They have been doing well enough to keep Russia from winning the war. And, kid, Ukraine wins by not losing.
What battle doesn't matter. It has been one continuous battle and they have lost a lot of people. Particularly the breeding stock for the continuation of the society.
They are not winning by losing. That's insane.
Here's something to think about. If you want to know about winning and losing.
12 thousand military aged males crossed our Southern border in one day. They all got cell phones. A ticket to go wherever the country they wanted to go. And, they each got a credit card with a 5 thousand dollar limit. 12 thousand times 5 thousand is 60 millions dollars. This is per a ranking Texas law enforcement officer.
You have no concept of reality, kid.
Russia is saying that Ukraine was never an independent and sovereign nation, and that it has always been “Russia.” This after Russia formally and legally acknowledged Ukraine as an independent and sovereign nation that INCLUDED Crimea and the Donbas. Thus, unless Russia eliminates an independent and sovereign Ukraine — in which case Ukraine loses, as it will cease to exist — Ukraine wins, as it will have survived as an independent and sovereign nation.
You guys always compare the war in Ukraine with the crisis on our Southern border. You guys are so dim you don’t even realize you are contradicting yourselves. If you are all for the US defending its borders from invasion (and you should be, if you are an American or care about America) you would welcome help from abroad. Likewise, if you agree that the US should defend itself against invasion, you must necessarily agree that Ukraine should defend itself against invasion; and you should not decry it receiving aid from abroad to help it do so.
I might add, since you use a rifle caliber as your handle, if you think that this is a fight that means a lot, please go there.
I have had my taste of war and no one wins. And, it is not our duty to fund these wars. Let the Rothchild's and Guddenheims fund it. They, through our history, have loved wars and have financed both sides.
So, go fight and defend them.
Furthermore, I am American and for Americans not some foreigner who don't give two hoots in hell for us, except that we give them money.
Oh, spare me your drama.
You know squat about war. You said no one wins a war. By your logic, we are still part of Britain. By your logic, Europe is part of Germany, and not the other way around. By your logic, there is no nation of Israel. By your logic...well, you get the picture. And, in a historical context, I’m not even going back beyond yesterday.
“Let the Rothchild’s and Guddenheims fund it. They, through our history, have loved wars and have financed both sides.”
The “Guddenheims?” Who the hell are the Guddenheims? Now, the Guggenheims would see you as a dimwit if you meant THEM; and we’d think the same of you, as well.
To the last Ukrainian.
Right! And I just heard on Joe Page the figure of 500000 dead, as well. And, that is not counting the burns, amputations and mental disorders.
video channel or website?
I think that if you search you will find him. He's on all the social media, even TikTok.
I thought it might be Joe Pags. He's good. :)
I may have spelled Guggenheim wrong but both the Rothchilds and they have enough cash to fund Ukraine, but that is not how they work.
It still stands, if the Ukraine is so important to you, then go and fight for them.
You say wars are won, on paper only. The human cost is not. I and others like me have the war everyday. For us, it is not won.
But, I take it, you wouldn't know. You just have a rifle caliber for a name.
“I may have spelled Guggenheim wrong but both the Rothchilds and they have enough cash to fund Ukraine, but that is not how they work.”
You even spelled the Rothschilds wrong: There is an “s” in RothSchild.
In any event, you seem to be demanding that two Jewish families fund the entirety of Ukraine’s defense. Are you an antisemite, as well?
“It still stands, if the Ukraine is so important to you, then go and fight for them.”
Oh, that old bromide.
“You say wars are won, on paper only.”
Nice try, kid. I never said wars are won “on paper only.” They are won when the other side is defeated and capitulates. The paper part — if one exists — sets forth the terms of the capitulation.
“The human cost is not. I and others like me have the war everyday. For us, it is not won.”
What war are you fighting? And, I mean a REAL war; not some inner struggle you may have with your own demons.
You let emotion dictate the terms of your argument. That can be fatal to your argument.
“Well, by your logic it is right to defend and fund a border thousands of miles away and let the US be overrun at its border.”
Strawman; assuming facts not in evidence; jumping to conclusions; and rushing to judgment. The typical default of someone who can’t argue logically.
“But, I take it, you wouldn’t know. You just have a rifle caliber for a name.”
I’ve liked the .30-06 cartridge for about sixty years now; that is why it is my screen name: I think it is the best all-around cartridge.
BTW: I was USAF (1970-1974); specifically, USAFSS (that was Air Force Intelligence back in those days).
Russia isn't the USSR anymore...today it's appr. 145 million Russians vs 37 million Ukranians. Still a factor of ~4 though.
People mostly don't realize how few Russians there are when they look at the size of the territory. Of course, much of the eastern regions will soon(*) be Chinese.
(*)give or take a few decades - Russia vs China is where your factor of 10 is.
You may have been intelligent, but something has been lost. I was BRO in Lai Khe in 68 and 69. I was around intelligence and it wasn’t so intelligent.
Ukraine has lost Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, most of Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia forever. If it doesn’t negotiate a peace deal now, it will also lose Kharkiv, Odesa, the rest of Kherson, and more. The flag wavers who think they’re helping Ukraine are just dismembering it.
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Your assessment is accurate imo
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