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07 Dec: NO NEED FOR INVITATION! UKRAINIANS ATTACK FIRST! | War in Ukraine Explained
Youtube.com ^ | 12-7-2023 | Reporting from Ukraine

Posted on 12/08/2023 1:09:39 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: popdonnelly
"Swell Russian meme, Rocco. You win a bottle of Vodka. Don’t drink it all at once."

Andddd. . . because you pulled out the 'ol mindless, boilerplate, Youkazoidal "Russian propaganda" smear, you once again win a Youcrayno the Clown!!!™ award. Congrats!

Youcrayno

81 posted on 12/10/2023 1:24:45 PM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: blitz128
blitz; "Not exactly long term economic gain there, but I am not an economist, and numbers from Russia like China are always suspect."

Right, there is a lot of negative information out there about Russia's economy and demographics, but how much of that is actually critical to Russia's war efforts is unknown.
If Russia is spending 50% of its budget, or 15% of GDP, that is huge, but still a very far cry from Second World War numbers which for Russia were circa 80% of GDP.
So it's impossible for me to say today how much they might adapt and adjust their economy to keep their war efforts going.

82 posted on 12/11/2023 6:21:04 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: kiryandil; UMCRevMom@aol.com
kiryandil: "Klowns usually get no respect, B-JoKe.
You should be used to being treated like this by now."

I think anyone reading these threads can decide for themselves who are the real clowns, presenting clown-arguments, and who have something more serious to say.

83 posted on 12/11/2023 6:24:25 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: popdonnelly; UMCRevMom@aol.com
popdonnelly: "The pro-Russia crowd contains a fair number of Russian trolls."

Yeah, maybe... but none of them will confess to it, they all claim to be just old-style American conservatives, meaning, if not out-right isolationists, at least in support of doing what Pres. John Quincy Adams famously described as

One problem with the authenticity of their pose is that they are all way too passionate in opposition to, not just Ukraine, but also American conservatives trying to support Ukraine.
Look at their gross ad hominems, their vile insults and personal assaults, their mocking memes.
Are these the behaviors of genuine American conservatives, trying to weigh in the balance whether or how much the US should extend our support for European countries beyond NATO?
Or do they sound more like paid propagandists, working for an enemy who wishes, not only Ukraine no good, but also evil on the United States as well?

To me the answers seem obvious, but others will have to judge for themselves.

84 posted on 12/11/2023 6:45:24 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
You might want to check the color of the liquid in your Corn Flakes, JoeKeBro.  
85 posted on 12/11/2023 8:56:28 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BroJoeK

True, but Russia is not the Soviet Union, and despite what they may say on RT, Russia is the aggressor

Time will tell, but wars have led to several regime changes in Russia.

Curious if the can kicking will come home after putins “tough” reelection bid. The fact that there seems to be some efforts made prior to an “election” without question intrigues me


86 posted on 12/11/2023 4:20:38 PM PST by blitz128
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