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Two risks for cholelithiasis:

1. High LDL and low HDL

2. Low total cholesterol and higher triglycerides

From the study:

“Lower serum TC can causally increase the risk of cholelithiasis. The cholelithiasis risk would increase with the elevation of serum TG but would decrease when exceeding 2.57 mmol/L. The use of HMGCR inhibitors should prevent its risk.”

1 posted on 12/03/2023 10:39:29 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 12/03/2023 10:44:08 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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“HMGCR inhibitors” seem to simply be normal statins, which, strangely, help get total cholesterol to low amounts.

You’d think statins helped make the problem, if total cholesterol was too low, with their use. It would seem best to not get your cholesterol levels “too low,” with, or without statins.


3 posted on 12/03/2023 10:51:10 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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thanks.

My ldl/hdl as of last measurements in september were 47/48 vldl 9 triglicerides 43.

I have been trying to lower ldl and increase hdl and lower vldl and triglicerides.

Looks like I made them too low and opened myself up for gall stones.

Now I don’t know what is a safe range for any of them except that its best to have higher hdl.


4 posted on 12/03/2023 11:20:35 AM PST by ckilmer (ui)
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this article seems to go against conventional wisdom.

I googled “What is the main cause of cholelithiasis?”

The answer came from Johns Hopkins.

What are gallstones? Gallstones form when bile stored in the gallbladder hardens into stone-like material. Too much cholesterol, bile salts, or bilirubin (bile pigment) can cause gallstones. When gallstones are present in the gallbladder itself, it is called cholelithiasis.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/gallstones#:~:text=What%20are%20gallstones%3F,itself%2C%20it%20is%20called%20cholelithiasis.


5 posted on 12/03/2023 11:23:58 AM PST by ckilmer (ui)
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THIS! Stop trying to lower cholesterol.

The only “bad” cholesterol are dead ones, known as “compact” LDL (cLDL). Robust real cholesterol are required for health.

When livers glycate through fructose and alcohol ingestion they stop filling cholesterol shells with ingested fat products (triglycerides). The results are elevated blood triglycerides and cLDL particles, and lowered healthy cholesterol.

Cholesterol typing is useless. Proportions are determined by genetics, and have no bearing on health.


7 posted on 12/03/2023 1:08:25 PM PST by nagant
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FYI, FWIW . ...

A few months ago I had a gallstone episode. On the advice of a Naturopath I wrapped a castor oil pack on the area and applied a heating pad.

It took a few hours but I actually felt the stones move and flush out, and the pain was gone.

A little bit later the stones made their final appearance and said goodbye.

Castor oil packs are pretty interesting for a variety of ailments.


11 posted on 12/03/2023 2:43:26 PM PST by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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https://clermontherbshoppe.com/how-to-increase-bile-flow-naturally-for-better-health/

there’s good info here, especially about the correlation of low thyroid and low bile. We need to get our stomach acid UP as well which promotes bile production.


18 posted on 12/03/2023 6:08:26 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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ping


23 posted on 12/03/2023 6:58:19 PM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is another day.)
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