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Iowa woman has both legs amputated, parts of her hands removed and will need a full facial reconstruction after being brutally mauled by three pit bulls that left her in critical condition
Daily Mail ^ | Dec. 1, 2023 | Alice Wright

Posted on 12/01/2023 6:07:08 PM PST by heartwood

...Brittany Skoland, from Fort Dodge, was attacked by three pit bulls last Friday, leaving her in critical condition.

Police were called to the 800 block of South 16th Street in Fort Dodge at around 11:25am, by a neighbor who reported that they could hear someone yelling for help.

When an officer arrived on scene, they found a woman being mauled by three dogs.

After attempting to scare the dogs away the officer was forced to shoot each dog multiple times, killing all three. ...

Neighbor Kerri Johnson told KCCI about the horrifying scene....

'I stepped out into the driveway just to take a peek, I saw a black dog lying down on the ground, deceased, which is super sad,' he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: heartwood

I do believe owners should be held criminally liable for what their animals do in their care.

If their dog maims an innocent person, they go to jail for that offense, as if they did it, themselves.


61 posted on 12/01/2023 9:18:32 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: The Duke

The vast majority of pits don’t attack anyone. My cousin was in a wheelchair, and lived in a bad neighborhood, and they kept five pits for protection. She loved them.


62 posted on 12/01/2023 9:25:27 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood

Pit Bulls: Facts and Figures

Americans believe that pit bulls are at least somewhat dangerous and that a family with small children should not harbor a pit bull. (YouGov.us, Poll Results: Pit Bulls, July 24, 2014, https://today.yougov.com/news/2014/07/24/poll-results-pit-bull.

By Attorney Kenneth M. Phillips, author of Dog Bite Law (dogbitelaw.com)

More than 50% of all pit bulls in the USA are up for sale or adoption. (Merritt Clifton, Breed Survey 2019, cited above.) !”
Most of the pit bulls offered for sale or adoption have been given up by their former owners. (Merritt Clifton, “Rescued” pit bulls now outnumber pit puppies, http://www.animals24-7.org/2017/06/14/rescued-pit-bulls-now-outnumber-pit-puppies)
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Between 19% and 32% of all dogs taken to shelters are pit bulls. (Emily Weiss, Rising from the Pitt [19%]; Merritt Clifton, “Rescued” pit bulls now outnumber pit puppies [32%], cited above.)

Pit bulls remain in shelters approximately three times as long as other breeds. (Lisa M. Gunter, Rebecca T. Barber, Clive D. L. Wynne, What’s in a Name? Effect of Breed Perceptions & Labeling on Attractiveness, Adoptions & Length of Stay for Pit- Bull-Type Dogs, http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0146857).
Forty percent of pit bulls in shelters are euthanized every year. (Emily Weiss, Rising from the Pitt, ASPCAPro, https://www.aspcapro.org/blog/2017/05/19/rising-pit).

Pit bulls are less than 6% of all dogs in the USA

There are approximately 4.5 million pit bulls in the United States, making up approximately 5.8% of the country’s canine population. (Merritt Clifton, Breed Survey 2019: More Puppies Yet Fewer Homes for Pit Bulls, https://www.animals24- 7.org/2019/07/09/breed-survey-2019-more-puppies-yet-fewer-homes-for-pit-bulls/.)
Pit bulls bite more humans than other breeds

From February 2013 to the present, animal control agencies and health departments in 19 U.S. states report that pit bulls are leading all breeds in biting incidents. The studies are summarized and linked at Dogsbite.org, Pit Bulls Lead “Bite” Counts Across U.S. Cities and Counties, http://blog.dogsbite.org/2009/07/pit-bulls-lead-bite-counts-across-us.html.
In the 10 years from 2009 to 2018, pit bulls killed or maimed 3,569 people in the USA and Canada. (Merritt Clifton, Dog Attack Deaths & Maimings, U.S. & Canada, 1982-2018 Log.) They killed over 80% of all Americans who are killed by dogs. (Colleen Lynn, 2015 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities, at http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2015.php.)
In the 13-year period from 2005 to 2017, pit bulls killed 283 Americans. (Colleen Lynn, 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart and Colleen Lynn, 2017 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities.)

Pit bull bites are more deadly than those of other breeds

From 2011 to 2019, 14 peer-reviewed retrospective medical studies from Level 1 trauma centers spanning all major geographical regions in the United States — Northeast, Southeast, South, Southwest, Midwest, West Coast, and Northwest — all report similar findings: pit bulls are inflicting a higher prevalence of injuries than all other breeds of dogs. The majority of these studies (12 of 14) also report that pit bulls are inflicting the most severe injuries, requiring a higher number of operative interventions — up to five times higher — than other dog breeds. Four studies from this period — all from Level 1 trauma centers in the Denver metro area — show a mixture of results, possibly due to Denver and the surrounding metropolitan regions enforcing pit bull bans for the last 3 decades. (See a compilation of studies with citations by Lynn, Colleen, Level 1 Trauma Center Studies, https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-studies-level-1-trauma-table-2011- present.php.)

Studies by health care providers establish that pit bull attacks are associated with higher median Injury Severity Scale scores, a higher number of hospital admissions, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death. (Bini, John K. MD; Cohn, Stephen M. MD; Acosta, Shirley M. RN, BSN; McFarland, Marilyn J. RN, MS; Muir, Mark T. MD; Michalek, Joel E. PhD, Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs, Annals of Surgery: April 2011, vol. 253, iss. 4, pp. 791–797, cited
at http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx.)

Another study authored entirely by physicians concludes that injuries from pit bulls are both more frequent and more severe. (Essig Jr., Garth F., et al., Dog Bite Injuries to the Face: Is There Risk with Breed Ownership? A Systematic Review with Meta- Analysis, Int. J. of Ped. Otorhinolaryngology 117 (2019) 192-188; accessed 3/25/2019 at https://bit.ly/2HShg80.)

Similarly, an additional study found that pit bulls inflict “more complex wounds, were often unprovoked, and went off property to attack” and that “[t]he probability of a bite resulting in a complex wound was 4.4 times higher for pit bulls compared with the other top-biting breeds.” (Khan K, Horswell B, and Samanta D, Dog-Bite Injuries to the Craniofacial Region: An Epidemiologic and Pattern-of-Injury Review at a Level 1 Trauma Center, J Oral Maxillofac Surg, November 2019, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31816277.)

Pit bull owners are more likely to be irresponsible

In nearly all of the cases in which I have been consulted, where a pit bull killed a person the pit bull owners had no insurance, and therefore the victim’s family received no justice in the form of compensation.

Published, peer-reviewed studies in authoritative journals of psychology and forensic science establish that pit bull owners as a whole — statistically — are more likely to be socially deviant, engage in crimes involving children, domestic violence, alcohol abuse, and violent crimes against other persons. (Jaclyn E. Barnes, Barbara W. Boat, Frank W. Putnam, Harold F. Dates, and Andrew R. Mahlman, Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs As a Marker for Deviant Behaviors, J. Interpersonal Violence, Volume 21 Number 12, December 2006 1616-1634, abstract at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17065657;

Laurie Ragatz M.A., William Fremouw Ph.D., Tracy Thomas M.A., Katrina McCoy B.S., Vicious Dogs: The Antisocial Behaviors and Psychological Characteristics of Owners, Journal of Forensic Sciences, Volume 54, Issue 3, pages 699–703, May 2009, abstract at http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1556-4029.2009.01001.x/abstract; Allison M. Schenk, B.A.; Laurie L. Ragatz, M.S.; and William J. Fremouw, Ph.D., A.B.P.P., Vicious Dogs Part 2: Criminal Thinking, Callousness, and Personality Styles of Their Owners, J Forensic Sci, January 2012, Vol. 57, No. 1, doi: 10.1111/j.1556-4029.2011.01961.x, available online at: onlinelibrary.wiley.com.)
Pit bull owners have engaged in extremely bizarre and vicious behavior, including these examples:

Laquandra Kinchen Ligons stabbed to death a neighbor who poked Ligons’ pit bull with a metal rod to protect the victim’s cats. (Pablo Lopez for The Fresno Bee, Fresno woman sentenced to 12 years for killing a woman in a dispute over
pets, http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article19643112.html#storylink=cpy.)
Matthew Thomas Oropeza killed a man who asked Oropeza to put a leash on his pit bull. (See the article in the Inquirer at Philly.com.)
Rashawn T. Washington-Clark ordered his pit bull to bite an officer and then attempted to bite the latter himself. (Charles Winokoor, Taunton police say man sicced pit bull on them, then tried to bite officer himself, https://bit.ly/37eIJcR.)

When they attack, pit bulls kill or maul their owners and the owners’ family members or visiting babies more than half the time

In the years 2016 through 2021, when pit bulls became homicidal they killed either their owners or members of their owners’ families most of the time. This can be called “eruscide” from the Latin word “erus” which means “owner” or “master of the house.”

In 2016, of the 31 Americans killed by dogs, 23 were killed by pit bulls and their mixes, and 12 of those 23 victims were either the owner of the pit bull or a member of the owner’s family. (See details given by Colleen Lynn, http://www.dogsbite.org/dog- bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php.) The eruscide rate was 52%.

In 2017, of the 39 Americans killed by dogs, 29 were killed by pit bulls and their mixes, and 18 of those 29 victims were either the owner of the pit bull or a member of the owner’s family (including a relative). (See Colleen
Lynn, https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2017.php.) The eruscide rate was 62%.

In 2018, of the 34 Americans killed by dogs, 25 were killed by pit bulls and their mixes, and 14 of those 25 victims were their owners, the owners’ family members, or babies that the pit bull owners were watching. (Phillips, Kenneth, Pit Bull Killings – 2018, https://bit.ly/2Wubi1j.)

The eruscide rate was 56%.

In 2019, 48 Americans were killed by dogs, pit bulls and their mixes killed 33, and 13 of the 33 victims were their owner or the owner’s family member. In one additional case, the victim was a visiting baby. (Phillips, Kenneth, Pit Bull Killings – 2019, https://bit.ly/2S5zcko.)

The eruscide rate was 40%.

In 2021, of the 51 Americans killed by dogs, 37 were killed by one or more pit bulls and their mixes (in some cases in combination with one or more other breeds), and 21 of those victims were either the owner of the pit bull or member of the owner’s family.

The eruscide rate was 57%.

The average eruscide rate during the past 5 years, therefore, was 53%.

Pit bulls also have been known to eat their owners.

In 2019, when the police went in search for Freddie Mack (57, Johnson County, TX), they could not find him, but they found bits of his bones and clothes in the excrement of his 15 pit bulls. (Sheriff: Missing North Texas man was eaten by his own dogs, Fox4News.com, July 10, 2019, https://bit.ly/2YR4BrD.)

In 2017, police looking for Bethany Stephens (22, Goochland County, VA) found her two pit bulls eating her rib cage.

(Goochland County Sheriff James Agnew, press conference, Dec. 18, 2017) In 2022, Marina Verriest’s husband returned home from work to find his wife being eaten by their own pit bull. (See Colleen
Lynn, https://blog.dogsbite.org/2022/07/family-pit-bull-mutilates-kills-70-year-old-woman-in-nassau-county.html.)

Common sense leads to the conclusion that when they attack, pit bulls bite (without necessarily killing) their owners and their owners’ family members and visiting babies in the same relative numbers, namely more than half the time.

Pit bulls are the No. 1 canine killers of women and girls, killing more than half of the females killed by a dog

In 2018, 28 American females were killed by dogs, and 19 of the killings were by pit bulls. (Phillips, Kenneth, Pit Bull Killings – 2018, https://bit.ly/2Wubi1j.)

In 2019, 26 American females were killed by dogs, and 16 of the 26 were killed by pit bulls. (Phillips, Kenneth, Pit Bull Killings – 2019, https://bit.ly/2S5zcko.)

Keep in mind: pit bulls are less than 6% of all the dogs in the USA. Yet they are responsible for more than half of the fatal attacks on women and girls.

Pit bulls are the No. 1 canine killers of children, killing more than half of the children killed by a dog

As of 2021, pit bulls have killed 249 American children in recent memory. (See Colleen
Lynn, https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/children-killed-by-pit-bulls.php.) Yet there are few laws requiring the muzzling of pit bulls in public, even though we require children to wear masks for the prevention of COVID, which has killed far fewer kids (just 172 as of December 2020, per Academy of Pediatrics, https://www.aappublications.org/news/2020/12/29/covid- 2million-children-122920).

In 2017, dogs killed 15 children out of the 39 total human fatalities.

Pit bulls kllled 8 of the 15 youths. (See Colleen Lynn, https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2017.php.)

In 2018, dogs again killed 15 children, and pit bulls killed at least 9 of those 15

(“at least” because the authorities have concealed the breed of one of the dogs that killed a child.) (See Colleen Lynn, 2018 Dog Bite Fatalities and Phillips, Kenneth, Pit Bull Killings – 2018, https://bit.ly/2Wubi1j.)
In 2019, dogs killed 16 children, and pit bulls killed 10 of the 16. (Phillips, Kenneth, Pit Bull Killings – 2019, https://bit.ly/2S5zcko.)
As stated above, pit bulls are less than 6% of all dogs in the USA. Yet they are responsible for killing most of the children who get killed by a dog.

Pit bulls are the No. 1 canine killers of other people’s pets and animals, killing more than 75% of those killed by a dog

In 2017, pit bulls killed 13,000 dogs, 5,000 cats, and 20,000 horses and other farm animals. (See Merritt Clifton, ‘Pit Bull Roulette’ killed 38,000 other animals in 2017.) Having destroyed more than 90% of other animals killed by dogs, the breed became the number one killer of other people’s pets, horses and farm animals.

In 2019, pit bulls accounted for 91% of all reported fatal attacks on other animals, 91% of all fatal attacks on other dogs, 76% of all fatal dog attacks on cats, and 82% of all fatal dog attacks on other pets, poultry, and hoofed species. (Clifton, Merritt, Record Pit Bull Attacks on Other Animals in 2019, https://www.animals24-7.org/2020/01/13/record-pit-bull-attacks- on-other-animals-in-2019-pro-football/.)

Pit bulls engage in home invasions more often than any other dog

Approximately once per month during 2015, 2016, and 2017, a pit bull has entered the home of a person not its owner for the purpose of killing or injuring people or pets. In addition to homes, the invaded premises have included apartments, schools, and even a police station. There were 16 such incidents in 2015, 17 in 2016, and 11 in 2017, with the first recorded one in 1912. (See Safety Before Pit Bulldogs, Extreme Attacks: List of Invasion Attacks by Pit Bulls,
at http://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/03/collection-of-home-invasion-pit-bull.html.)

Pit bull attacks (deaths and disfigurements) are on the rise

Fatal and disfiguring attacks by pit bulls have risen 830% since 2007. (Merritt Clifton, Record 33 fatal pit bull attacks & 459 disfigurements in 2015, at http://www.animals24-7.org/2016/01/04/record-33-fatal-pit-bull-attacks-459-disfigurements-in- 2015/)

Repealing their pit bull ban was a disaster for Youngstown, Ohio

Youngstown banned pit bulls from 2007 to 2015 but repealed the ban in November 2015 under activist pressure. At least two disfiguring pit bull attacks on humans occurred in Youngstown since then, while a pit bull influx has overwhelmed the Mahoning County dog pound, which serves Youngstown. “Currently, 98% of the dogs at the Mahoning County dog pound fall under pit bull breeds,” reported Molly Reed of WKBN earlier in 2018. (Clifton, Merritt, “Educate yourself”: pit bulls in schools run amok, https://www.animals24-7.org/2018/12/16/educate-yourself-pit-bulls-in-schools-run-amok/.)

The pit bull attack cover-up is on the rise

The authorities either unwittingly or purposely are engaging in a cover-up pertaining to pit bull violence. In the three decades from 1982 t0 2013, only 45 canine homicides or disfigurements were by dogs of an unidentified breed, but in 2014 there were 36 and in 2015 there were 78. (Merritt Clifton, Record 33 fatal pit bull attacks & 459 disfigurements in 2015, at
http: //www.animals24-7.org/2016/01/04/record-33-fatal-pit-bull-attacks-459-disfigurements-in-2015/ )

The breeding of pit bulls adds to the pit bull problem

Over 40% of the USA’s pit bulls are homeless, according to the latest survey (Merritt Clifton, 2018 Dog Breed Survey: At Least 41% of U.S. Pit Bull Population Are Seeking Homes, at https://www.animals24-7.org/2018/06/18/2018-dog-breed- survey-at-least-41-of-u-s-pit-bull-population-are-seeking-homes/).

The percent of homeless pit bulls is probably over 50% because rescues and shelters falsely advertise two out of ten pit bulls as being some other breed. This means half or nearly half of the nation’s pit bulls are seeking homes. Breeding pit bulls potentially adds to that number.

“Pit bull” is a term that describes all descendents of the Old English Bulldog
The Old English Bulldog was adapted into a fighting dog referred to as the “Bull and Terrier,” which then became the Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Terrier, Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, English Bull Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, etc. All such varieties are referred to as “pit bulls” or “pit bulls and their mixes.” (See, i.e., Staffordshire Bull Terrier from The Book of the Dog, http://www.staffordmall.com/phildrabble.htm.)

Dogs that attack other dogs are dangerous to people

A study in Orange County, Florida, established that in a 12-month period 7% of all bites to humans occurred when two dogs met. (WKMG 6 News, Web Extra: Animal Bite Statistics,” June 2, 2015, cited at http://www.webcitation.org/6Z1dDCYdp.)

https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20dogs%20killed%2016,get%20killed%20by%20a%20dog.


63 posted on 12/02/2023 1:22:50 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: heartwood

I overheard a conversation a couple of years ago, the person involved had been at a yard sale, and he saw a dog he described as mixed breed (pit and something else) attack a toddler in a stroller, and it tore off a piece of the child’s face. I didn’t want to butt into the conversation, so I don’t know all the details since the guy was clearly upset about what he saw.

Hopefully, the child survived, the dog was executed, and the dog’s owner was criminally charged, and sued for every penny he/she owned, or would ever own.


64 posted on 12/02/2023 3:06:27 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting the Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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To: heartwood

Had a border collie pit mix once. One of the most gentle and smarter dogs I have known. Smarter than my heelers I have had.

I have a Catahoula now, she is a very smart big girl (70lbs). Won’t hurt you, just ‘screams’ at you, unless you try to hurt me. Catahoula have a very distinct bark. Very protective. Hard to handle if you don’t know k9.


65 posted on 12/02/2023 4:57:56 AM PST by waterhill (I Believe all you need for home defense is an 870 and a Catahoula)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Yeah, get a half acre somewhere down in the deep woods of southeastern Oklahoma and keep some pits and see what happens.

They'll run in a pack and feast on wild game, other people's livestock (and dogs), and eventually they'll get some kid riding his bike out on a road somewhere, or some elderly lady hanging her laundry.

66 posted on 12/02/2023 5:11:04 AM PST by OKSooner ("You're not gonna like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: heartwood

So you would say “Mostly Peaceful” then.


67 posted on 12/02/2023 5:16:54 AM PST by OKSooner ("You're not gonna like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: bboise

I veterinarian I know once told me that if he had his way, the breed would be eradicated. He said that during the creation of the breed, they bred back to too many cur dogs. He refused to treat them unless the owner wanted the dog euthanized.


68 posted on 12/02/2023 5:21:35 AM PST by liberalh8ter ( Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: OKSooner

Mostly. Kind of like keeping warm, sleek, loyal hand grenades that occasionally drop their pins.


69 posted on 12/02/2023 5:59:37 AM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Thank you for that explanation.


70 posted on 12/02/2023 6:25:02 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: metmom

I knew that this was going to be a pit bull hate thread just by browsing the headline in the feed last night.

You are the only one I’d engage here on the topic. A lifetime of observations:

With one exception, every pit bull I’ve experienced - a total of around a dozen - have been the sweetest, smartest, most loyal and protective dogs I’ve ever met. Never a bite or attack against anything that wasn’t a threat. In contrast, in both work and otherwise I’ve personally been attacked by no less than a half dozen dogs, bitten by 2 that weren’t my own, one of which is a breed stated as beloved and safe here at FR. My own dogs over the years - almost exclusively Dobermans and German Shepherds (but no pits, so zero bias) - presented more problems than any pit I’ve encountered, but we worked through them with a couple of exceptions.

Additionally, absolutely everyone I’ve known has never had an experience which differs from my own and in most cases like the OP story of attack there are mitigating factors.

The one exception for the pit my experience was a case of abuse and neglect.

Yes, I read the OP article: It contains not a single detail of the conditions which led to the attack, a trend mirrored in all such media reports exhibiting bias on all topics, including the jabs.

Furthermore, my observations over the years - ironically - outline that in every one of threads such as these, the bias exhibited mirrors that of jab defenders/promoters.

I am not disputing how pits were originally bred, but I dispute the characterization of such attacks by pits as ‘instinctive’.

It’s simply not scientific, nor are calls to eliminate the breed.


71 posted on 12/02/2023 6:26:24 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

I have not encountered many pits personally, so do not have a lot of personal experience with them. The plethora of articles about pit attacks and the severity of the damage done by them does not present a positive view of the breed when they do go over the edge.

The dogs I have had the most experience with as far as aggression, however, is the little ankle biters. The difference is one of those can be drop kicked across the room. That makes them far less of a risk than a larger dog that would be much more difficult to defend myself against.

That said, about the only dogs I don’t have any concern about being attacked by is Goldens. Every thing else I just keep an awareness about around me.


72 posted on 12/02/2023 6:47:10 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

Fwiw, one of the 2 bites against me was by a ‘Golden’...


73 posted on 12/02/2023 6:49:42 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

That’s the first aggressive act I have every heard about them. Usually, they seem more inclined to lick you to death.


74 posted on 12/02/2023 6:51:43 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

As with nearly 100% of all dog bites/attacks, there were mitigating factors (I never faulted the dog, and I did not report it).

The irony with anklebiters - the other the 3 of my bites (I forgot one because in that case I was fast enough to lose only my pant leg, which the owner paid for) - is that the mitigating factor is almost always just being in their presence, especially in their homes.

And, yes, agreed on ‘kicking them across the room’.


75 posted on 12/02/2023 7:01:04 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: metmom
"Show me how to train a herding instinct out of a Border Collie, a retrieving/love of water instinct out of Labs, the rat killing instinct out of Terriers, or a digging instinct out of Dachshunds."

Your point is spot on..

76 posted on 12/02/2023 7:03:21 AM PST by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: OKSooner

Dog of “peace”.


77 posted on 12/02/2023 7:47:28 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: heartwood

I am not necessarily afraid of ALL Pit Bulls, but I AM afraid of ALL Rottweilers.

Don’t like Dobermans either.

I have 2 Boston Terriers, are they NEXT for extermination?

What about Ankitas?

What about Belgian Malinois?

What about German Shepherds?

WHERE do you stop with the exterminations?

ALL DOGS IN PACKS can be DANGEROUS! The “pack instinct” becomes initiated when dogs form packs.

I had a pack of 7 Lhasa Apsos, yes Lhasa Apsos, who exhibited wolf pack like behavior. Splitting into 2 groups in order to circle and attack prey. (The UPS truck)

NO JOKE! I have watched videos of wild wolves do this exact maneuver.


78 posted on 12/02/2023 10:49:01 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: heartwood

four teenagers who dismembered a 73-year-old woman by viciously dragging her along behind her own SUV during a horrific fatal carjacking.

Exterminate ALL “teenagers”? They also develop the “pack mentality”.

Or would you just want to exterminate THESE FOUR teenagers?

Not the same thing?

Oh, I disagree. It’s the EXACT SAME THING.

HUMANS you say? These “teenagers” are inhuman. They ARE ANIMALS!

I like most dogs more than I like most humans, so there!


79 posted on 12/02/2023 11:00:45 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: faucetman

Post 37 is to me, not by me.

If you wish to discuss the matter, please address him.


80 posted on 12/02/2023 11:08:30 AM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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