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To: gleeaikin

Your insight is appreciated

South Korea would be part of North Korea if we handled them like we did south Vietnamese at the end of the war and stopped all support. We have a habit of doing that

Your point on weapons systems and costs is spot on. When yousell a used car(actually never had all of mine end up at the junk yard when I am done, had a Mazda 323 with 290k was hoping to get 323k, but almost laughably it was still Ryan’s taken for a joy ride which used up its 9th life), the new price is not part of the equation generally unless it is a lemon.
Abrams, Bradleys, Strykers, m-113 all bought and paid for and most of them are now excess and being or scheduled for replacement.

The dollar value given to them as if that is new monies out of the treasury is maddening. Additionally most of theses Espoo systems were designed and built to fight the soviets and basically that is what they are doing without the loss of US servicemembers

The Ukrainians are fighting far more like the south Koreans did, and not the Iraqis, afghans, and to some extent south Vietnamese, for sure the civilian support for Ukraine by Ukrainians far exceeds anything seen by those three

Russian continued support for the war just reinforces my opinion that the Russian psyche is unique and a combination of many factors, fear, control, lack of truth


85 posted on 11/19/2023 4:07:00 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

“Abrams, Bradleys, Strykers, m-113 all bought and paid for and most of them are now excess and being or scheduled for replacement.”

Exactly.

The Abrams tanks we’ve sent to Ukraine were bought, paid for, and produced in the late 80’s early 90’s. We the taxpayers got our money’s worth out of them plus interest. These 31 tanks would otherwise be left to slowly rot in a field along with the 4,100+ other Abrams tanks in storage.

The Bradley’s were older models that were in storage, and were not scheduled for any upgrades to M2A3, M3A3, M2A4, or M3A4 models, or any other service life upgrades. 2,000 currently in storage.

The Strykers were also older first production vehicles that were not scheduled for remanufacture to the current “V” hull configuration.

The M113’s are rapidly being replaced by the AMPV. There was over 2,800 M113s in service, with a further 4,000+ in storage


92 posted on 11/19/2023 7:24:12 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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