Posted on 11/17/2023 11:35:43 AM PST by Red Badger
“The commercial project will largely be licensed and regulated by the state Department of Health,”
The NRC voted earlier this year to use Part 30 for licensing fusion plants. This apparently led to this conjecture.
However, special rules will be developed by the NRC for power plant licensing.
It is journalistic malpractice to extrapolate to state licensing.
I’ve already marked that on my calendar for 2053...
I’ll celebrate fusion and my 120th in the same year with a big party...
Everyone here is invited...
When I took plasma physics 25 years ago. The prof said, “Fusion power is 20 years away and always will be!”.
So far pretty prophetic!
I'm less of a gloomy gus about this than I used to be, but still think everyone should read (or listen on audiobook) this one if they want to learn more about the long search:
The Strange History
of Fusion and
the Science of
Wishful Thinking
by Charles Seife
Where’s kevmo
Ping!........
Very interesting...
When I did a post-doc stint back in the 1960s, they were saying the very same thing...
It is comforting to be able to depend on the stable “truths” that derive from the bible, fusion research, particle physics, string theory, MOND, the former Constitution, and the promises of all forms of Marxism...
Never, never, never hold your breath!
I’m just a spectator trying watch the game from the cheap seats. Often its easier to watch the jumbotrons than the actual players on the field.
What I have found to be convincing is this interview with
David Kirtley, CEO of Helion and Commonwealth Fusion Energy CEO Robert Mumgaard
They are using different approaches to fusion energy. But what I found most convincing is that they both talk about a coalescing of technologies. About three or four different technologies have matured to the point where used together— they are vastly accelerating the development of fusion energy. I only recall two. One is AI. One is high temperature super conducting. I think by combining the technologies they obtain heretofor unforseen synergies that enable them to see much faster development than previously anticipated.
They also mention the reclassification of of fusion energy so that onerous nrc restrictions do not apply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPULlqA5Wc
“I’m just a spectator trying watch the game from the cheap seats.”
Same here.
“They also mention the reclassification of of fusion energy so that onerous nrc restrictions do not apply.”
That is what I have detailed in mt previous posts.
Will license under Part 30 instead of Part 50 but details and rule-making not developed yet. NRC has till 2027.
I don’t know the details on the lisencing but so far what I’m hearing is that the feds know that if they lay the same kind of regulartory burden on fusion that they do on fission—then fusion reactor technology like fission reactor technology will go overseas. Today the USA has the largest number of fission reactors built many decades ago. But the USA is only a minor player in the international market. The USA was long ago superceded by the russians, koreans japanese and even the chinese.
You should listen to the fusion ceo’s back and forth in the link that I provided. It will give you a feel for the state of the fusion technology race—and how greatly accelerated it is because of interlocking technological advancements that just were not available 5 years ago.
I listened to that and went woa. The Jetson’s science fiction world really is right around the corner.
“I don’t know the details on the lisencing “
I gave it to you.
your point is that it is not a done deal that fusion reactors will be under less stringent regulatory burden than fission reactors.
correct?
doesn’t sound like you want to catch the fusion fever by watching the presentation that I linked to. (anyhow that’s what convinced me that fusion is not 20 years in the future and alway will be—but rather 5 years in the future and definitely coming.)
‘your point is that it is not a done deal that fusion reactors will be under less stringent regulatory burden than fission reactors.
correct?”
incorrect!
Will license under Part 30 instead of Part 50 but details and rule-making not developed yet. NRC has till 2027.
/////
ok then what does this mean?
btw, you’re starting to sound like a guy with a dog in this fight. if so, then I’m not all that keen to muck with your rice bowel.
“btw, you’re starting to sound like a guy with a dog in this fight. if so, then I’m not all that keen to muck with your rice bowel.”
You posted to yourself?
“doesn’t sound like you want to catch the fusion fever by watching the presentation that I linked to.”
I have spent 53 years in the nuclear industry. Degrees in nuclear engineering. Senior Reactor Operator license. Senior Test Engineer for major vendor at several nuclear plant startups.
Best you stick to facts and stay away from internet mind reading.
Walter Mitty, is that you? 🙂
I have spent 53 years in the nuclear industry. Degrees in nuclear engineering. Senior Reactor Operator license. Senior Test Engineer for major vendor at several nuclear plant startups. …
I have spent 53 years in the nuclear industry. Degrees in nuclear engineering. Senior Reactor Operator license. Senior Test Engineer for major vendor at several nuclear plant startups.
/////
So you’re retired. You worked with fission and the technologies developed in the last 5 years that provide the confidence in fusion are alien to you. What’s more you don’t want to know anything about it—because hey, you don’t need to. You know what you know. That’s enough. Ok got it. Nothing to be ashamed of. Most old guys are that way. Me too. I only talk this way because this is a field about which I know nothing. So its all impressions. Based on passing curiosity or rubber necking. I’m not— an engineer like you who deals in known knowns. I can be swayed by the charlaton ceo’s at fusion companies Helion and Massachusetts Commonwealth Systems.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
