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Fusion power: Are we getting any closer?
Big Think ^ | M. Mitchell Waldrop

Posted on 11/17/2023 11:35:43 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: PIF

Stars have something we cannot provide.

Massive amounts of gravity........................


21 posted on 11/17/2023 12:17:40 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

One point twenty one gigawatts!! Great Scott!!


22 posted on 11/17/2023 12:17:44 PM PST by VideoPaul
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To: Red Badger

We are 93,000,000 miles away from fusion power.

L


23 posted on 11/17/2023 12:22:11 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: TexasGator

It’s called sarcasm


24 posted on 11/17/2023 12:23:27 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Rebuild the Temple.)
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To: Red Badger

Let’s just hope Doc Ock doesn’t get any ideas on how to destroy us all.


25 posted on 11/17/2023 12:31:13 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Red Badger

‘“And we do need fusion on this planet, badly.”’

Science is now a religion.


26 posted on 11/17/2023 12:37:16 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: alternatives?

‘“And we do need English teachers on this planet, badly.”’


27 posted on 11/17/2023 12:42:34 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

“But this approach to fusion is probably many decades from being a practical way to generate electricity.”

Sounds eerily familiar.


28 posted on 11/17/2023 12:45:27 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Red Badger

“...the carbon-free energy source...”

Ugh. Spare us.


29 posted on 11/17/2023 12:55:21 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Red Badger

And that event, which lasted only about one-tenth of a nanosecond

Man, one kilowatt hour of this could get pricey.


30 posted on 11/17/2023 12:55:27 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Red Badger

Fusion is and always was a foolish pursuit. Even if it is achieved the fuel is not available. If it was available it would be too expensive.


31 posted on 11/17/2023 1:10:32 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: one guy in new jersey
When are the scientists going to get around to creating carbon-free humans?
32 posted on 11/17/2023 1:11:02 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: Red Badger

I predict libtards will continue to burn coal and use slave labor to strip mine lithium to force battery cars on the population


33 posted on 11/17/2023 1:12:23 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Or at least ones that don’t breathe out that noxious and polluting gas, CO2.


34 posted on 11/17/2023 1:23:55 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Red Badger

China’s Jiangxi to build a fusion-fission reactor

https://asiatimes.com/2023/11/chinas-jiangxi-to-build-a-fusion-fission-reactor/


35 posted on 11/17/2023 1:28:08 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: TexasGator

here’s a couple news releases on it.
https://www.geekwire.com/2023/microsoft-and-helion-want-to-build-the-worlds-first-fusion-plant-and-seize-energys-holy-grail/

The power purchase agreement requires Helion to start generating electricity on a set schedule — or pay financial penalties to Microsoft and Constellation. While the agreement carries a risk to Helion, it also unlocks essential benefits, Kirtley said.

The commercial project will largely be licensed and regulated by the state Department of Health, which previously approved three of Helion’s test devices. The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission delegated authority to the state for radiation safety oversight decades ago. The process is expected to be faster and more straightforward than what’s required for traditional nuclear plants powered by fission, or the splitting of radioactive elements, which poses more serious health and safety risks than fusion.

Amy Roma, a nuclear regulatory lawyer and head of the global energy practice at the law firm Hogan Lovells, agrees there are obstacles for Helion and others in the sector.

But Roma also sees the necessary elements for success coalescing: technological milestones are being met, there’s government support of the sector and regulations taking shape, and there’s an influx of funding and ready customers.

“All the pieces,” she told GeekWire, “are coming together nicely.”

Here’a a couple more news releases. I don’t know that they add much more.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/10/microsoft-agrees-to-buy-power-from-sam-altman-backed-helion-in-2028.html#:~:text=Clean%20Energy-,Microsoft%20agrees%20to%20buy%20electricity%20generated%20from%20Sam%20Altman,fusion%20company%20Helion%20in%202028&text=Microsoft%20said%20Wednesday%20it%20has,electricity%20from%20it%20in%202028.

https://www.helionenergy.com/articles/helion-announces-worlds-first-fusion-ppa-with-microsoft/


36 posted on 11/17/2023 1:40:21 PM PST by ckilmer (ui)
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To: ckilmer; TexasGator

I happened to be in Washington State in May of this year, and stopped at a Mexican restaurant/tequila bar.

there was a large group of people who had taken over the bar They were really excited and partying really hard, probably ran up a 10k + bar tab.

anyway I thought they were a strange group of people from the girls with multi colored hair, guys with guages, but super expensive clothes, to the conservatively dressed engineering types.

Being nosey I listened while trying to figure out who they were and what company they worked for.

I heard things like magnetic field plasma compression helium 3 deuterium.

I saw a bunch of them go outside for a smoke break so I decided to ask them wtf.

I walked up to them and said did you know there is a working fusion generator only about 8 light minutes away (they must have thought I said 8 miles) as their mouths all dropped open.

Turns out they were from Helion and while they would not tell me why they were celebrating I think I have a pretty good idea.

they did tell me how their stuff worked and how it was tech spun off from the U of W and how they were going to change the world.

I got the feeling that they believed it


37 posted on 11/17/2023 1:50:00 PM PST by algore
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“The commercial project will largely be licensed and regulated by the state Department of Health, which previously approved three of Helion’s test devices. The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission delegated authority to the state for radiation safety oversight decades ago.”

Not for fusion power plants. That id for particle accelerators. Helion is trying to convince the NRC that’s power plant is just an accelerator.

I see nothing that they have. The NRC has been mandated to propose rules for fusion plants by 2027.


38 posted on 11/17/2023 2:04:47 PM PST by TexasGator
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“The commercial project will largely be licensed and regulated by the state Department of Health,”

By law, fusion plants are classified as Advanced Reactor Systems and will be licensed by the NRC.

Licensing has not and will not be delegated to any state.


39 posted on 11/17/2023 2:10:22 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

I watched a documentary on the huge TOKAMAK they are building in the UK and all they could conclude that the American taxpayer needs to dump hundreds of billions, if not trillions, to build and fund it. Totally not a boondoggle.


40 posted on 11/17/2023 2:39:58 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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