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I went to my grandkids school for a Veteran's Day celebration and sat next to a B-24 gunner.
1 posted on 11/11/2023 3:08:55 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

I had a father-in-law that was small in stature. He was solicited to transfer from the army to the army air corp. He turned it down because he didn’t want to become a ball turret gunner. He slogged ashore at Normandy instead.


2 posted on 11/11/2023 3:20:36 PM PST by MisterArtery
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To: Retain Mike
From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,

And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.

Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,

I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.

When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

—Randall Jarrell

(A great poem worth proper formatting)

3 posted on 11/11/2023 3:28:21 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Retain Mike

Back in the 80s I attended an airshow near Rochester, NY with several older guys. As we walked around the B24 Liberator one of them stood and silently stared at the front end of it; and then softly said, “At the time we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I was in training to be a nose gunner in a Liberator. When Japan surrendered, that was no longer necessary.”


5 posted on 11/11/2023 3:35:30 PM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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To: Retain Mike

Being a ball gunner ranks up there with being a tanker in the “no thank you” job in the army.
I’d peel potatoes in Leavenworth for the duration.


9 posted on 11/11/2023 3:41:23 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: Retain Mike

I was thinking of that poem today. God be with all who served.


10 posted on 11/11/2023 4:24:38 PM PST by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: Retain Mike

I read your post and have tried for at least thirty minutes to formulate a reply. The only thing I can contribute is a quote from General Patton, whose birthday is today:

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived.
— George S. Patton Jr.


11 posted on 11/11/2023 4:31:59 PM PST by samiam5
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To: Retain Mike

I saw an interview with a former ball turret gunner. He said he didn’t feel particularly vulnerable in the ball turret because there were no safe places on a B-17.


12 posted on 11/11/2023 4:42:02 PM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Retain Mike
Wonderful article. Can't imagine being in that position, ball turret gunner. How brave those men were!

This is a photo my uncle took when he was piloting a B-26 Marauder, not sure of the year. Looks like the ball turret was on top of the Marauder.

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He was 23 when he was shot down and killed.

15 posted on 11/11/2023 6:14:48 PM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Retain Mike

If you have Prime video, watch a few episodes of 12 O’Clock High. All the B-17’s you can handle.


18 posted on 11/11/2023 8:16:24 PM PST by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: Retain Mike

God bless the USA!


23 posted on 11/12/2023 12:16:04 PM PST by Milagros (Y)
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