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Sources: Big Ten coaches urge action vs. Michigan in call
espn ^ | 11-2-23 | Pete Thamel

Posted on 11/02/2023 7:20:36 AM PDT by FLNittany

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To: FLNittany

SIGNAL stealing??? UMMMM this is a game where getting the UPPER HAND is the advantage!


41 posted on 11/02/2023 8:00:59 AM PDT by Paul46360 (What??ME worry?)
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To: FLNittany

Signal stealing...

God knows how many players may have been harmed by the vaxx mandates their institution instituted.

Then there’s sports betting, game fixing, and not just by players.

I can see why the NCAA is happy to fixate on signal stealing...


42 posted on 11/02/2023 8:02:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: usurper

I agree, as long as the opponent is breaking into your office or hacking your computer. It’s really your job to conceal your signs.


43 posted on 11/02/2023 8:02:37 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: FLNittany

Pull up your big boy pants! If this is such a heinous situation, why is TCU bragging that they just changed their signs and beat Michigan? Why would any team NOT change their signs week to week? Sounds more like a bunch of whiney coaches with their panties in wads because Michigan is dominating them this year.


44 posted on 11/02/2023 8:06:44 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: tomkat; FLNittany
A stupid theory from Nittany. There are few other than UM rivals that think this was much, gave any advantage, or is even true. It's mostly yellow journalism. ALL schools try to steal signs. Every. One. It's not illegal. Which is why this is all so stupid.

Penn State coaches knew Michigan was going to run all last year. Every play. Was that an unfair advantage? Yet they could not stop it and got stomped. The delusional belief they knew run/pass/direction is about as true as all of Trump's crimes.

45 posted on 11/02/2023 8:09:01 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: notdownwidems

It’s not only a Big 10 rule it’s also an NCAA rule which perfectly clear, sign stealing goes on all the time, but no one is sending coaches to scout future opponents, sitting behind the bench and filming the coach signaling in the plays or in some cases getting sideline pass and doing the same thing

It’s blatantly against the rules, even in the NFL this type of thing is forbidden


46 posted on 11/02/2023 8:09:54 AM PDT by srmanuel (e)
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To: FLNittany

I suspect the knowledge of the Sign Stealing goes higher up in the Michigan University Management than they want to admit.

If Sign Stealing is against the NAACF Rules then remove Michigan for the rest of the Season!


47 posted on 11/02/2023 8:12:12 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Staris and Bars Flags))
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To: JonPreston
He should have jumped to the NFL last year.

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Maybe he can get on Bill Bellechick's staff!


48 posted on 11/02/2023 8:17:27 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: TNoldman

People act like changing signals every week is possible. Sure you can put in wrinkles, but to change everything would take up a good portion of your allotted practice time.

Why should any team have to do that just because an opponent illegally scouted them?


49 posted on 11/02/2023 8:21:11 AM PDT by FLNittany (Autotune is jealous of Karen Carpenter)
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To: FLNittany

I am of two minds on this...

1. If it is against the rules, it is against the rules. If they willfully broke the rules, they need to be punished. Now.

2. It is just laziness that a team would use the same signals every game and with technology the way it is, radios would seem to be a better alternative. In lieu of radios, switch to visual cues that change from week to week - one week it is hand signals, the next week it is color squares, the next week it is geometric shapes. They have five solid days of practice, at a minimum, to acclimate to the new signals.


50 posted on 11/02/2023 8:21:22 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: FLNittany

Suppress conservative thought, fine. Harass Christians, fine. Engage in anti-Semitic violence, fine. OMG!! someone stole football signals! The horror of it all!


51 posted on 11/02/2023 8:26:27 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: FLNittany

I think it does. Because the whole rule is stupid. If you’re whole rule is stupid, don’t enforce it, change it.


52 posted on 11/02/2023 8:26:49 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: srmanuel

And the NFL wisely (well too late to be wise, but eventually) switched to giving the defense a radio set. Best way to keep signs from being stolen is use radios.


53 posted on 11/02/2023 8:30:08 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

True, this akin to the Astros stealing the catcher’s signal and hitting a trash can once for a fastball and twice for a curve, Lose Altuve wore a buzzer device under his uniform to give him the pitch before it thrown

The Patriots lost a 1st round pick and paid a large fine for sneaking around and filming practice sessions of opponents

All the coaches know this is cheating and Harbaugh did it anyway, he should face some serious consequences


54 posted on 11/02/2023 8:40:31 AM PDT by srmanuel (e)
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The problem w/ radio headsets is the implementation - all the way down to D3 and JC levels (and eventually HS).

I think the NFL radios are cut off at some point post huddle? Not sure. I am sure that the NFL spends a shit-ton of money making sure the radio rules and communication security/privacy are well in place and policed.

How do you do that in some D3 program where the radio is probably patched through a press box the size of my patio? How long would it take for techie fans in the stands to know the coming plays as well?


55 posted on 11/02/2023 8:53:31 AM PDT by FLNittany (Autotune is jealous of Karen Carpenter)
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To: usconservative

By NCAA rule, schools are prohibited from IN-PERSON scouting of future opponents. Coaches and staff cannot video tape sidelines of opponents.

By agreement, all schools send game film to each other so each school get equal opportunity to study their opponent on film.

This is a big deal. Michigan was sending coaches to film the signals on the sidelines. BIG no-no. Harbaugh is already on the record that he knew nothing about it. However, the evidence is becoming overwhelming that he knew and used the illegal scouting.


56 posted on 11/02/2023 8:56:56 AM PDT by Bryan24
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To: tomkat
“I don't get it .. if you're good enough, you win regardless what the other team's doing.” Only Post that's worth considering on this thread. Good job!
Its called winning, and that is what Michigan is doing. They don't like Harbaugh for the same reasons they don't like Trump. He is as *sshole.
Just this one time.......M Go Blue!
57 posted on 11/02/2023 9:06:10 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: dangus

You are more right than you know, I posted an article (link) here weeks ago about Harbaugh being targeted. It is reminding of how Trump was and is targeted, often using arcane laws to twist what is really going on. Only an idiot would think that a person goes to games exclusively “to steal signs” and then report back. Perhaps an overzealous fan/alumni has contributed to the exaggeration. Harbaugh had a great career as a starting QB for the Wolverines, went on to be a great in the NFL, then in coaching and took his team to the Super Bowl and is now coaching UM to possible trip to the championship.

Michigan into three centuries has the most wins, to this day has the highest winning percentage and attendance and none of these records will be broken in all likelihood for decades at best. THEY DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT. My wife has met Harbaugh (fundraisers) several times and he is nothing but a class act. Indeed he goes against the left on issues they detest. Charlie Kirk on one of his recent podcasts talked about this too, just one of the left’s recent targets.


58 posted on 11/02/2023 9:16:35 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: srmanuel

And now the NFL allows defense to use radio sets. And the MLB uses the PitchCom to communicate between the pitcher and catcher.

It’s the 21st century, if your sport is using hand signals you should fix that. Hand signals exist to be stolen. If you have to outlaw scouting to protect them scouting isn’t the problem.


59 posted on 11/02/2023 9:21:02 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: MotorCityBuck

“They don’t like Harbaugh for the same reasons they don’t like Trump.”

I was ranting this exact sentiment weeks ago about the Trump analogy, I first saw this topic on a couple sports blogs and here we are.


60 posted on 11/02/2023 9:26:18 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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