Lithium-Ion Batteries Aren't Good Enough To Power A Renewable Future — This New Battery Could Be

www.inverse.com ^ | OCT. 22, 2023 | BY THE CONVERSATION , STORM WILLIAM D GOURLEY AND DREW HIGGINS

[Da Coyote]

Huzzah! They’ll be available only a few weeks after we commission the first fusion power plant. Now, about the inadequate generating capacity, aging inadequate power grid, and worst of all, a left wing ruling party with the technical knowledge of Al Gore.

[G Larry]

Not surprising since those batteries designed 25 years ago, were never intended for powering society.

[Bernard]

Does that mean that there is enough zinc available to satisfy the fantasy? I notice that the excerpt mentions reusing the zinc anode, so just pop it out of the old battery and place it in the new one? Sounds easy-peasy.

[Skwor]

Hopium has never been a reliable source of power.. and it never will be.

[AndyJackson]

First most batteries used for solar applications are not Li ion batteries. They are LiFePO4 batteries, which are much less expensive and they are stable. They are "affordable" and work and have long-lifetimes - for say offgrid remote residential applications. Second, the idiocy of all of these articles is that they talk about various battery chemistries and manufactruing technologies as if they are avialable or at least the technology exists at a prototype or pilot scale so it can be evaluated. For the most part these things are no more than labels on an application for a research grant - some version of a bank account into which you can pour money in return for which the recipient "promises" to research the technology and find out if it can work.

It's all some sort of fraud. Some of it is well-meaning to be charitable. Much of it isn't. A lot of competent investors and existing manufacturers are scowling around to make sure they have access to the latest technology that could upset their business if someone else gets in first. And those folks are not convinced that there is anything there, or they are already funding the things that show the greatest promise.

Innovation is a lot harder than oh, I have an idea, you have money, let's partner up so I can spend your money for you.

[Red Badger]

The anodes and cathodes have always been a major headache for batter mfrs................

[Red Badger]

https://www.carbon-ion.energy/

[Red Badger]

Zinc is the 24th most abundant element in Earth’s crust and has five stable isotopes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc

[SecondAmendment]

The only reason we are in this mess is that the same demographic that gets degrees in social sciences instead of STEM shows up at the polls and votes ...

[AndyJackson]

Now you're just taunting me. Can I buy shares? Can I write my congressman to encourage zerm to use my taxpayer money to subsidize this. Or do they already have a gubmint loan guarantee.

I presume they don't actually have product on the market that I can buy since I don't see a link to a sales rep anywhere which is the next level of scam in product development.

[Red Badger]

😜😁😎....................

[dfwgator]

Or it could not.

[Red Badger]

the same demographic that gets degrees in womens studies instead of STEM shows up at the polls and votes ...

[Shady]

Zinc/Air batteries are what most, if not all, hearing aids use.

[butlerweave]

We all know the best battery is OIL

[Tell It Right]

No matter the technology, no matter the physical science, the problem is always with physical science.

I, too, have LifePo4 batteries. They work well for me but won't for the grid. Why? Because I'M the one who manages them, I'M the one who benefits from them, which makes ME motivated to make sure it's done efficiently and effectively.

That's unlike the grid, which is overregulated by the POLITICAL CLASS. It doesn't matter what the source of power is -- THEY will find a way to muck it up.

The only thing solar and batteries bring to the table is that it gives us the ability to do it in a decentralized fashion -- putting the power into our hands (pardon the pun) and not in the bureaucrats. Any talk about how this or that technology can help with the grid is pointless because the grid problems aren't technology problems.

[Tell It Right]

Oops. I meant the problem is always with political science.

[Red Badger]

That’s what mine uses!..............

[Moltke]

Finding a cheap, safe alternative battery to lithium is the key to moving the needle to a completely renewable power sector.

When you start with a lie... did not read any further.

Figure out how a viable distribution network will be paid for and installed first.