Posted on 10/24/2023 1:22:01 AM PDT by Libloather
The demand will continue to be limited IF they can’t overcome the range or charging issues.
IF you can drive the vehicle year round in minus twenty or 120 degree temperatures without losing power is the other technological issue.
I bought my first battery operated exterior power tool a couple years ago. A Stihl hedge trimmer. Prior to that everything I have used was a 2 stroke engine. I still have multiple chainsaws, string trimmers all with 2 stroke engines.
I MAY never buy another 2 stroke engine again. The battery in the hedge trimmer lasts about 45 minutes of run time. I have two of them now. I have run it out of power once since I bought it.
My point is that the battery technology continues to change.
When it is comparable to the range and ease of use of an ICE then there will be a major shift in what the average consumer buys.
The only EV breakthrough is when they have a trailer with a generator on it.
EVs are just remote coal-burning devices.
Don’t they need to find a new avenues if they’re expected to survive the next few decades? Transition is natural when your existence is on the line. All these oil companies are doing the same thing. Especially refiners.
Would you consider all the tentative words used in there?
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Toyota has said it is close to being able to mass manufacture potentially revolutionary solid-state batteries that could offer double the range of existing electric cars.
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According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.
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They have been presented by experts as a revolutionary technology that could bring EVs into the mainstream.
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Not a SURE THING by any means. But I would expect Toyota to be able to deliver on this before GM. LOL
Toyota just agreed to use Tesla supercharger ports on all their EVs starting in 2025. Id assume the battery tech will be shared and/or stolen.
Trick question, everyone knows black currants hold twice as much electricity as red.
“Somebody else do the math - - it’s 5 AM and I haven’t slept a wink.”
I’m not much more awake than you, but here’s what I got lying in bed, so you may want to double check these numbers...
About 3000 amps with a 480v charger. (you’d have to have a 250kwh battery to get that range)
With a 250kw supercharger (which may be the biggest today) it would take at least one hour to fully charge.
At home with a 50 amp 240v charger it would take about 30 hours.
That’s about what I use in 10 days for running my house.
I may have to upgrade my 30 amp breaker.
Yup. You'd be dealing with voltages I'd not want to be anywhere close to. Not to mention how much power a 'station' that was charging multiple cars would draw from the grid.
Indeed. Would really hate to be anywhere near an accident when it dumped it's load.
You mean like the LED lights that were supposed to last 30+ years? How's that working out for you?
My guess is the cars would mostly use existing infrastructure during early stages of release. Solid state batteries are suppose to have better heat tolerance than the LI batteries. At a 350KWH charger that much energy isn't being dumped into a LI battery. It is more like 200KWH when LI batteries are at 20% capacity. At around 50% of capacity, the charge rate starts to slow. If the solid state battery car can use the full 350KHW rate, they will be out of the charging station sooner.
Yeah but can you drive it in the rain.
Bingo. If it’s that good, people will buy it - without being forced. I’m good with that, but still want my big block...
Well, for real chainsaws, 2 stroke can not be beat period.
I can’t even think of a battery that would work with my Husky 395XP or Stihl 044.
Unless they come up with an electric car/truck with a 6 or 7 speed manual transmission, I ain’t biting.
Batteries will never match the energy stored in gas/diesel.
My dad bought an 044 Stihl Farm Boss in the 1970s. My older brother still has it. I always found it too heavy for me.
I bought a Stihl 026 in 1990 when I bought my first house. I blew the piston in it March 2020. Right during the height of covid. It took over six months and me complaining on a Stihl Facebook post to finally get the replacement piston & rings at my local dealer.
I bought a Stihl battery operated chainsaw when my 026 was busted. It takes the same battery as the previously mentioned Stihl hedge trimmer. It is great for trimming branches. It rips through anything up to about 5-6” inches in diameter. So, when I dropped a (16” DBH)maple tree last spring I used the smaller battery saw to de-limb the log.
I also just used it a couple weeks ago for trimming all the saplings along the old skidder trails behind my house. All those 2-4” diameter trees that curve in to scrape the side of my tractor cab.
The nice thing about the battery saw is that it is light. I can hold it up above my head with one hand. Then cut branches up to 7’ off the ground without a pole saw. I also feel more confident climbing up into a tree with that saw because as soon as you let go of the trigger the blade stops. So, it is a lot harder to cut your leg off!
So, unlike a gasoline engine that you start up and keep running. The battery saw/trimmer stops when you let go of the trigger. The ONLY time it is running is when you are actually cutting. So, IF you buy the biggest battery in the series(I have two now) it will last to finish the entire job.
When I used it for tree trimming it never ran out of power. When I use the hedge trimmer I have never even close to running out of power. The only time I have run out of power and had to switch batteries was when I cut down the 16” dia Maple tree. Again, using the battery saw to trim all the branches.
Here is the list of equipment I own and have experience with:
Massey Ferguson 37HP turbo diesel cab tractor
Landpride 72” finish mower
Bush Hog 5’ Squeeler
John Deere LX 255 riding lawn tractor with 15HP Kohler/ 42” deck
Honda 20” snow blower (4 stroke)
Toro 16” snow blower(2 stoke)
Stihl 026 chainsaw
Echo straight shaft string trimmer(2 stroke)
Stihl FH80 straight shaft brush cutter with bicycle grip
I have two of these. I got one for free at the dump.
Troy Built 4’ sickle bar mower(bought for $50 at a yard sale) has a 5HP 4 stroke B&S engine. Great for maintaining trails.
Stihl MSA 120 battery chainsaw
Stihl HS50 battery operated hedge trimmer
2012 Toyota Tacoma DBL cab long bed pick up(bought new)
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