[OKSooner]

That's fine, one wouldn't try to talk anyone out of it.

Just I'm saying that one would always hope for redemption of whatever kind for a young guy like Caleb, which would necessarily start with humility.

It's his old man who should have known better (welltodo real estate broker from suburban DC) and persisted in advising him the way he did, in the vainglorious hope of "getting into The League!". Last week, before this game, Caleb had actually said something about holding out for part-ownership of whichever NFL team would be blessed with the opportunity to draft him. Now, one wonders where THAT hare-brained idea came from...

[dfwgator]

Did the old man tell him to put “Blank Utah” on his fingernails?

[Mouton]

I hope Caleb gets his ownership wish with Green Bay!