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FR ^ | Oct 19 | RandFan

Posted on 10/19/2023 6:35:32 PM PDT by RandFan

Rep. Jim Jordan met the 20 hold outs tonight and they told him bluntly they won't support him for Speaker

This is crazy. They'll never give us this victory.

Jordan wanted to know what they wanted and what the issue is.

Their opposition doesn't seem to be based on anything.

They're just being complete a**holes for the sake of it?!

Kind of like "Never Trumpers".

Anyway, another (third) Speaker vote is scheduled for tomorrow.

Jordan is not quitting which is good. McCarthy had 15 rounds of voting remember.

The plan to empower the Bush crony as Speaker also did not go down well.

I say keep things in limbo.

The precious Ukraine funding in particular will not happen without a Speaker and the clock is ticking on government funding (CR).

Thoughts on this?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: clownshow; gopclowns; housespeaker; jimjordan; showcontinues
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To: RandFan

Good, let it go for a hundred if necessary. They will eventually cave because they have no choice but to elect him. In the mean time, time out for the spoiled brats has been peaceful with no destructive behavior. Longer the the time out the better.


41 posted on 10/19/2023 7:02:51 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: learner

Peeps again’ MAGA are long run loosers.

Hosers too.


42 posted on 10/19/2023 7:03:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RandFan

Or perhaps they ARE Never Trumpers.


43 posted on 10/19/2023 7:06:14 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: skr

+1


44 posted on 10/19/2023 7:06:35 PM PDT by bantam
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To: Jane Long; Political Junkie Too

I honestly think they’re just being stubborn and childish to deny a “Win” for Trump who endorsed Jordan.

I’m not sure if its bribery per se but just petulance.


45 posted on 10/19/2023 7:09:56 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: Jane Long

They couldn’t make it more obvious unless they wore signs saying CORRUPTION.

They don’t have one sensible reason for defying the voters.

IMO uncovering 22 corrupt House members is a big win.

Absent the next speaker being a clear loss vs McCarthy-

this is still going to be a win.


46 posted on 10/19/2023 7:09:57 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: learner

Doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results is the text book definition of insanity

Here is how the game has been played in DC for over 2 decades now.. The US House GOP is told “oh you have to only pass bills that the Senate will vote for and the White House will sign”.

The result is the House GOP consistently passes hard Left Democrats Legislation to “get things done”. The Democrat get all the political benefits while the GOP gets all the blame from the voters. This game has got to stop being played by the GOP. This is a chance to do that.

This is a chance for the GOP to start actively using the power of the US House to say “You want something done Senate? You want something done White House? Here is what we passed. Either vote for it or reject it. We have done our job.”


47 posted on 10/19/2023 7:12:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

Jordan wanted to know what they wanted and what the issue is.

Their opposition doesn’t seem to be based on anything.
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Maybe it’s because he’d be second in line in the order of succession of Gov’t??

“The order of succession specifies that the office passes to the vice president; if the vice presidency is simultaneously vacant, or if the vice president is also incapacitated, the powers and duties of the presidency pass to the speaker of the House of Representatives, president pro tempore of the Senate, and then Cabinet secretaries, depending on eligibility.”

Government?


48 posted on 10/19/2023 7:12:51 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: RandFan
They want the money: almost all those opposing sit on the appropriations committees and the defense committee and voted themselves earmarks.

It would be better to pay them off but arrange some requirements for spending bills so they get something but the wholesale porkulus spending is cut. Defund DHS since it only acts to enable border crossers and hires Hamas supporters to do background checks. Seize and Iranian assets still frozen and give them to Israel. Seize any Russian assets still frozen and give them to Ukraine. Stop the green subsidy madness including the tax credits for EVs. Get the regulatory agencies' boots off the economy's neck. Cut the EBT cards, etc., etc.

49 posted on 10/19/2023 7:13:28 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: learner
Look what Congressman Gaetz has done. He should be run out of the party. Destroy with NO PLAN. What an incredible Jerk.

No, the JERK would be YOU, newbie doobie. I'm sure Gaetz intended that Jim Jordan would take McCarthy's place. Unfortunately, that would be if the Repubs were actually for America instead of for whoever is paying them off.

50 posted on 10/19/2023 7:13:53 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: RandFan

Kelly PA-sued the state over mail ins-

and also equated Trump’s impeachment to Pearl Harbor-

how can he be a NO? without corruption, extortion/blackmail?

it’s even more senseless than Bacon.


51 posted on 10/19/2023 7:13:55 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Tupelo

The Republicans NEVER want to lead.
All the chances they’ve been given, and they screw up every time.
They are the proverbial dog that finally catches the car; and then have no clue
what to do with it.
It’s reprehensible these 20 won’t fall in line for Jordan, but if roles were reversed, conservatives would be pounded until they have in on a GOPe nominee
Don’t give up JJ


52 posted on 10/19/2023 7:15:01 PM PDT by bantam
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To: RandFan
What are the GOPe afraid of???

Ousted RINO Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy Lashes Out: ‘The Whole Country Would Scream at Matt Gaetz Right Now’"

53 posted on 10/19/2023 7:15:41 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: RandFan

54 posted on 10/19/2023 7:18:09 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: Freest Republican

Great point!!

That’s what we need to send them....”COMPROMISED w/CORRUPTION” signs, to wear during the vote.


55 posted on 10/19/2023 7:18:38 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Oooh....he looks purely evil.


56 posted on 10/19/2023 7:19:18 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Steve Bannon said his "spies" on Capitol Hill reported that high powered lobbyists made deal$ with these holdouts, to lock Jordan out. The Deep State never sleeps.

Those meeting with, and getting paid off by lobbyists are the foulest kind of traitors. Without a Speaker, and a committed Republican one, this is the succession of filthy traitors who would take over if Biden keels over and Kamala is out of the picture:

President pro tempore of the Senate Patty Murray
Secretary of State Antony Blinken
Secretary of the Treasury Janet Yellen
Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin
Attorney General Merrick Garland

57 posted on 10/19/2023 7:24:06 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Freest Republican

Have emailed Bacon twice this week. Unfortunately, he’s unlikely to be primaried, and the dem Tony Vargas, who almost beat last round, has already announced he’s running again.

Bacon has been a huge disappointment. I think his biggest problem is that he let blame fall to Trump for January 6th, and now feels he’s trapped by his prior stand. Otherwise, he’s just corrupt or unAmerican or both.


58 posted on 10/19/2023 7:25:23 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Jane Long

Looks like something is going on with McCarthy’s chin. It’s red. Chin horns - VAX side effects? LOL


59 posted on 10/19/2023 7:25:43 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: EinNYC

Geatzs had NO plan. He is and was a destructive force.
Show me any different plan or tactic?


60 posted on 10/19/2023 7:26:19 PM PDT by learner
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