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Yes, indeed. That guy.

On a side note, the first of your links is incorrect, as it references FR. Happens when one is hurried. Returns a 404 as you noted in your previous comment about the Armenian report.

We shall agree. That guy. And an interesting tale, given the outside dates in my comment above spanning 2018 until today. Yup. Corrupt and over at least six years, and involved with other Ukrainians. Yup, Free on bail too.

And as to that "pro-Kremlin lawmaker," he's Ukrainian and in the Ukraine even now, a People's Deputy (Member of Parliament). Curious about him?

https://novynskyi.com/en/biography/

Turns out the simplistic view of this extraordinarily tangled web is -- well -- knotted in all sorts of ways.

And meanwhile, and as posted before:

This whole world event centers on money. As noted in comment # 107 (posted to yesterday's thread to another Freeper):
The links to document the above are there. "The report identifies many prominent investors, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."
Comment #107
Note that the Z-government is participating in this. "In 2020, Zelenskyy gave in to the IMF's demands and finally repealed the moratorium. 'Agribusiness interests and oligarchs will be the primary beneficiaries of such reform,' said Olena Borodina of the Ukrainian Rural Development Network. 'This will only further marginalise smallholder farmers and risks severing them from their most valuable resource.' But the World Bank could barely contain its excitement, gushing: 'This is, without exaggeration, a historic event.'
The point is that Ukraine is being carved into chunks, Putin taking some, and a lot of Western players taking other chunks with the approval (or at least acquiescence) of Zelensky, as profiteering goes on through many means, large and small.
Lots of players, and at many levels. The "little guy," be he Ukrainian, Russian or American, is losing throughout. And the inverse is also true. The "big guys," Ukrainians, Russians, Americans -- and now we add from above -- Norwegians (recalling that Stoltenberg was prime minister of Norway) and others in Europeans, as well as the cottage industry of monetizing "content" which is promoted daily, all come down to money. Few clean hands in this mess.
This is likely why so many dearly want there to be a "white hat" in this "historic event," in the World Bank's parlance. It seems there really isn't.
As observed and documented: "The whole Ukraine goes for sale - massive profit opportunities being created by the war." Modern Diplomacy (EU). Another of their articles is also informative:
The real issue is not about Ukraine – it is NATO and Russia
107 posted on 10/7/2023, 7:29:04 PM by Worldtraveler once upon a time

War and Theft - the Takeover of Ukraine's Agricultural Land

Money. It's what's this is all about. Big Ukrainian money. Big Russian money. Big American money. Big European money. And by "big," I mean for the few and well-connected, including Z and P, without a doubt. Not us little folk. For us....

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The operator of this thread has read and in part ignores, at least in part, the substance of comment # 203 by "squirrel, look over there." It is a way of drawing attention away from substance, to another substance as a method of diluting a point.

There is NO question that Ukraine is being sold off to large corporate concerns -- demonstrably multinationals, and headlined by hedge funds -- in the same way that there is NO question that these and similar actors are doing quite the same thing in the United States. Oddly the same is occurring in Europe as well, with farmers from the Netherlands to Poland to France becoming more angry with their own governments' allegiance to multi-nationals. For the goals as she well illustrates with sources and citations, this is one portion of a larger tapestry.

This thread is first about Ukraine, and so my focus has been in part to illustrate the corruption of many national and international players angling for their "share" of the spoils of war. Even Zelensky has been implicated, as the sourced mention of the IMF and World Bank illustrate. If all the players are corrupt by degree, then this fits well with the similar streams moving around the world, wherein big money aims to displace the small farm operators with the goals of controlling food production and supply. In the Ukraine. In Europe. In these United States.

This is why your response to the odd tale of Gennadiy Trukhanov is so illustrative. Corrupt from at least 2018 per the BBC, then pro-Putin and then anti-Putin, then arrested for corruption and then bailed out by a Ukrainian MP of still significant wealth, and still as of today holding office as mayor. Money talks. Big money talks around the world, and in Ukraine, because this war-torn nation is part of the larger saga, and, as one source observed, the nation is being "carved into chunks."

Who's carving, given the current government of Ukraine must approve? "Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."

Similar things going on here in the states? You bet. Ditto, Europe.

As to some of the names mentioned in connections with Gates and faux-meat, the list is interesting and comprehensive, when looking from those "US" involved names finds them all working the same multinational "magic" in Ukraine:

Monsanto to expand its operation in Ukraine
Has Zelensky sold off Ukraine's agriculture to US multinationals?
Private Sector on the Frontlines of Land Reform to Unlock Ukraine's Investment Potential
Bayer's Troubled Monsanto Megadeal Finally Shows Promise
The hidden hands behind East-West tug of war in Ukraine
"Syngenta employs around 730 people in Ukraine and about 800 in Russia. It said it has no plans to withdraw from Russia." May 2022
Syngenta expects Ukraine harvest to fall by a third
Syngenta - The American Chamber of Commerce in Ukraine
"Dmitry Skornyakov, CEO of HarvEast, one of Ukraine's largest agricultural companies, said: 'We had a big contract with Syngenta ... and Syngenta just stopped supplying Ukraine. We had a pre-paid contract, we paid them and they just did not supply.' 'According to my information, they still supply Russians, why [do] they do this? It's very strange,' he said. A spokesperson for Syngenta said it continues to supply Ukraine, and does so at high risk and without expecting to make a profit. 'The goods we ship are no longer insured against losses,' the spokesperson said."
Hunger games: Ukrainians slam Western agribusinesses for staying in Russia
Agrochemical Producers Not Deterred By Russian/Ukraine Conflict
Syngenta CEO: Ukraine Crisis Calls for Shift Away from Organic Farming

It is understandable that emotions play a large role in reactions to war, but beneath the surface one finds players always angling to profit. Major General Butler was correct. So correct.

And then, as button to this comment or "word salad," as some like to say:

Bill Gates says 'the scariest thing of all' is Ukraine war because it is a 'distraction' from climate change