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To: Fungi

“Nonsense. Recorded history is only six to seven thousand years. Where were these people before that? Extrapolate further to evolutionary postulates that man has been around for at least three million years and we have a problem. What were all these supposed humans doing during that time?

Yet we have a six thousand year history from supposedly living in “caves” to making computers. Where all all the bodies? Millions of years and they could not figure out how to get out of a cave and build a house? Nonsense.”
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There has been such an explosion of advances in the last few thousand years, that it makes me wonder how this ties in with Genesis.

Instead of God creating the entire bodies of Adam and Eve (whether instantly if you take Genesis literally, or slowly over a period of millions of years as the science seems to indicate), perhaps, a few thousand years ago, He just “upgraded” the brains of the existing humans. So we are the result of a 2-step process, not just 1-step.


27 posted on 10/05/2023 11:37:40 PM PDT by Mr Information
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To: Mr Information

He just “upgraded” the brains of the existing humans. So we are the result of a 2-step process, not just 1-step.

Could be.

Even many evolutionists have used the idea of slow and gradual change, and then something big happens to give the life-form a change.

See punctuated equilibrium (things are pretty constant for most of the time and then a big change) and the “hopeful monster” theory.

The evolutionists see it happening by chance and environment, but so many mutations have to happen at the same time it points to a Designer.

Genesis is not a science book, but it gives some pretty interesting descriptions of how everything was created which match much of what we see in science. I wonder how many creation stories have humans being made first and then the world is created for them?

The word “day” in the Hebrew can also refer to an “age”. Like “back in the day of the dinosaurs...”

I’m open to most theories when it comes to God’s creation.

Our pastor is along the lines that I think, but he is also open to the idea of actual 24-hour days and gives scripture for that. He said something like “And, while I think the fossil record makes sense the way we commonly understand it, if God wanted to - He could have made the earth LOOK that old from the very beginning. He created Adam “old”, as a full-grown mature adult.” I thought that was an interesting take on it.


28 posted on 10/06/2023 12:32:09 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Mr Information

If you want to really blow your mind, look into the theory of how self-awareness evolved in humans.

One theory says before self-awareness evolved, we were like gorillas or monkeys in that we had no ability to know what others were thinking about us or any ability to deceive.

Then through evolution driven by sexual strategy, female humans evolved the ability to deceive males in order to have multiple sexual partners without the male learning about it and killing or abandoning her offspring. Without self awareness, the males would be as easy to deceive as a dog. The female could continually find new, more beneficial sexual partners to pass her genes down while also maintaining the day to day support of her mate.

In this, she would have evolved the ability to differentiate between lies and truth or put another way....”the knowledge of good and evil”.

The theory posits that sometime after females gained this trait, males also gained it.


38 posted on 10/06/2023 10:31:35 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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