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EV Optics Fail: Bribery Biden’s Energy Secretary’s Tries a PR Stunt, Gets Police Called on Them by Suffering Family
Liberty Daily ^ | • Sep. 10, 2023 | J.D. Rucker

Posted on 09/11/2023 6:41:49 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Lurker

Smith and Wesson?.................


21 posted on 09/11/2023 7:11:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

But the GD communist government will continue to shove these heavy, inefficient vehicles down our throats. Where does the electricity come from? FUBAR


22 posted on 09/11/2023 7:12:19 AM PDT by NavyShoe
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23 posted on 09/11/2023 7:14:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

DOH! Stoopid is as stoopid does. Dumbassery personified. Dear branDUHn (b)adminisration......🖕


24 posted on 09/11/2023 7:15:00 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: Red Badger

Any day Granholm is exposed as the fool she is is a good day.


25 posted on 09/11/2023 7:17:29 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: bigbob

😂👍. But the lemmings keep following.


26 posted on 09/11/2023 7:20:05 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: Red Badger

Only a total fool would buy an EV. GM and Ford deserve to go bankrupt. They cannot sell their EVs despite the huge, ridiculous capital investment.


27 posted on 09/11/2023 7:21:10 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Red Badger

“Help, help police! I’m a liberal douchebag driving an electric car on a hot day with a baby inside and I can’t charge my car because the people I voted for are blocking all the charging stations!”


28 posted on 09/11/2023 7:21:21 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: Red Badger

[[There may come a day when America and Americans are ready for electric vehicles]]

There will,never be a time UNLESS you can run them with air conditioner on or heater on for pong trips in brutal weather, and charge times of around 5 minutes tops, and as many charging g stations/pumps as there are gas stations/pumps today, and ranges over 500 miles before charging need, and replacement batteries come down to $1000 or so I stead of the $25,000 currently, and and and


29 posted on 09/11/2023 7:23:09 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Alberta's Child
I recently read a report that the motive power in a fully-charged F-150 Lightning is the equivalent of 4 gallons of gasoline. Who the hell would leave home on a road trip of ANY length with that kind of fuel on board?

I'm not anti-EV. I'm anti-forcing to EV's. When I type about pros and cons of EV's it's about use cases (if one's particular needs and wants are best met with an EV). That said, I simply don't see a practical reason for a large EV pickup. Anytime you use it for large loads you greatly reduce the range. They should have made EV versions of the smaller trucks. People who buy those tend to use them mainly for commutes with every now and then small pickup chores. Those are potentials for an EV matching one's use case (assuming other things are also true, like have a place to charge at home, drive enough commute miles to warrant needing to save on gas, is married and need two cars anyway so you have an ICE car for long trips that an EV won't do, don't live up north where the cold winters make EV's perform horribly, etc.).

For example, back in my early 20's to mid 30's I had a small 4-cyl pickup that was great for my needs. I used it mainly for commuting to work (in the early years for commuting to both full time work and part time to college). Even after I finished college and had more free time my pickup chores were small -- mostly things like putting dirty lawn tools in the back. By the time it got worn out enough to have to replace it in my late 30's, my pickup chores became more frequent and often heavier. So I replaced it with a larger pickup.

If EV pickups had been a thing then, I'd had been interested in one back when my pickup chores were light (small EV pickup) but not after I started every now and then pulling a trailer or carrying a bed of heavy cargo (i.e. cinder blocks to help a family member way out of town, or every now and then pickup chores for the church).

30 posted on 09/11/2023 7:24:44 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

They will NEVER make that mistake again. They will do more road trips, but magically EVERY EV charging station will be fully functional, but with no customers.

Why? Because the owner of the planned EV charging stations will declare them as ‘inoperative’, so the apps will show that to all but our masters.


31 posted on 09/11/2023 7:28:08 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Red Badger

“White House privilege”

😅👌


32 posted on 09/11/2023 7:40:39 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Red Badger

My buddy from Michigan tells me that Granholm is a total psycho. :)


33 posted on 09/11/2023 7:42:39 AM PDT by OKSooner (Maybe Quix was right about some stuff. Pronouns=(XY, XYim, XY's))
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To: Bob434

Think of all the wattage that’s going to have to be charged up in batteries to do all that, and then what’s going to happen if there’s a collision and those batteries get hit just right. Or wrong...


34 posted on 09/11/2023 7:44:40 AM PDT by OKSooner (Maybe Quix was right about some stuff. Pronouns=(XY, XYim, XY's))
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To: OKSooner

Exactly. We will never have the infrastructure to keep pace with the demand for electricty when they force us all to elect everything like they are doing- some states it is almost now illegsl,to install fossil fuel using items in a new house- forcing everyone to go all electric

Rolling blackouts and brown outs will become a daily thing in many heavily populated areas.

And let’s not forget the massive losses that will occur when storms hit and fubar the electric grid for days, weeks on end in some cases.


35 posted on 09/11/2023 7:48:25 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Alberta's Child

There is a feller in TN with a youtube channel that does it...

well he uses two 5 gallon cans.. and they are cars that would never pass inspection. but...


36 posted on 09/11/2023 7:49:43 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Tell It Right

Exactly- there are uses for ev in certain areas and situations if one so chooses to use one, but overall, it will be a bust if they force everyone into electric only vehicles.

I’d also like to know what they will do when they do force everyone into e.ectric everything, and nothing changes climate-wise- issue us all refunds? Compensate us for the hassels of electric vehicle ownership in certain climates? They will never admit a mistake, and will simp,y claim that “we must do more to help the climate” whatever that means


37 posted on 09/11/2023 7:53:14 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red Badger

or some other s bag state that will not let you have a firearm like NJ. Think about being stopped on say Central Avenue in Newark awaiting a few electrons to get into your car while surrounded by the “locals” admiring your wallet, your clothes, your vehicle, well maybe not the vehicle, and your life.

Or a MLK or Malcolm X boulevard in any city.


38 posted on 09/11/2023 8:08:44 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: FlyingEagle
We should be 100% against the govt forcing or subsidizing people to go to EV's. We should always argue for the free market. That said, when we argue against the left we should at least get our facts straight so we don't sound as bad as the left does when they try to explain why global warming causes blizzards or some other dopey cult idea.

50kW – 120kW are rare to find.
Not for us. We recently drove on a 1,500 mile one-way trip in our EV car with nothing but 150kW and 3050kW chargers until the last charger about 10 miles from destination (50kW) we used to in case our family members couldn't help us find a place to charge when we arrived in the middle of the night. But do your homework before getting an EV. Make sure the places you normally drive to on road trips have good chargers. And don't get an EV unless you're married and need 2 cars anyway so that the ICE can be used if you one day decide to take a road trip through Montana for the first time in your life. (Or drive a road trip up north in the winter, which I don't plan to every do.)

Normal 3kw chargers take 10 to 14 hours.
When I charge at home I usually have it set on it's lowest Level II setting of 5.6kW, but that's because I have solar. Mine can charge up to 9.6kW with the Level 2 charger I have.

So for that one hour, or 4 to 6 hours, or 10 to 14 hours, while on road trip, what does one do? Read a lot, maybe?
I don't know about your wife, but on road trips my wife askes to stop every 200 miles anyway to walk around for 10-15 minutes. LOL Since we got the EV 15 months ago I haven't gone on a road trip without her. I'm sure that day is coming and I'll probably take the ICE pickup. But until then, a lot of us family men were stopping every 200 miles anyway.

What if stuck in south Memphis? Or in middle-east Baltimore? Just sit there and charge?
I've yet to see where the other EV users on the plugshare app lied about conditions at a charger, including if it was safe (i.e. well lit for night, in a public area). With getting 200 miles with it charged to 80%, you can opt to charge elsewhere. Otherwise, take the ICE car.

It just does not seem very practical unless you are just going from the house to the country club and home again in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.
That's actually a bad use case for getting an EV. EV's aren't worth the cost unless you drive enough miles to warrant a gas savings to at least break even. IMHO with the gasoline and power costs in Alabama, that's about 12K miles per year. That accounts for things like when I get an annual car registration I have to pay an extra $200 EV fee to account for the fact that I don't pay gas taxes (not fussing, it seams reasonable, just an example of many pros and cons to list out before buying an EV). If you drive less than that per year, the extra costs for an EV probably aren't worth the gas savings. If you drive a lot more than 12K per year an EV is worth considering. If you produce most of your own power like I do with solar, that breakeven point is about 10K miles per year.

My wife and I put 26K miles per year in our EV, with about 22K of those miles charged at home (the other 4K miles gets into costs to charge on road trips vs cost of gas on road trips). With solar producing 82% of all the power we need in our now all-electric home, including charging the EV, that means those 22K miles of local charging added to my power bills less than 4K miles of grid pull. At 16 cents per kWh (the true kWh rate after adding in the riders and state tax that my power company adds), it cost less than $45 in power to drive those 22K miles. So we're a great use case for having an EV. We wouldn't be if we drove only 4K or 5K miles per year, even with most of the charging being free.

39 posted on 09/11/2023 8:09:57 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: butlerweave
Everyone will own an EV brick with no way to charge it but don’t park it near your house it may catch fire Bingo!
40 posted on 09/11/2023 8:19:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Our side must NOT work with democrats. Or we'll Bud Light them...)
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