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To: Jane Long; All

Joe Pags Pagliarulo
@JoeTalkShow

Tell me exactly what you think Matt Gaetz did wrong. Let’s stop the posturing and BS.

It took 15 votes and a lot of negotiating to get the Speaker’s gavel in McCarthy’s hand in January. He made promises and concessions and was told he’d be held to them. First, what he did well:

He masterfully dealt with the media. They’d ask loaded questions and he’d go right at them with truth and facts. Several times, he held them to account and did so very well. In fact, I think some became gun shy. He was especially strong in defending the House investigating alleged corruption by the Bidens.

He’s also done a good job raising money. Some say he’s been great — but, I’d argue the Rs should have a much larger majority in the House. So, I’ll say a good job. And...

He talks one helluva good game. He was gonna do a ton.

Defund the 87,000 IRS agents
Close the border
Put a low cap on the debt ceiling
Pass a sensible, cost-cutting budget

Those who support him say he’s done all of that. And he hasn’t. Getting it to the floor and passing it doesn’t get it done. And, he knows that. When you have the majority and you get legislation done in the House that has to do with money — YOU HAVE THE LEVERAGE. It’s an empty victory when you say you defunded the 87,000 IRS agents who are NOT defunded, or the border isn’t closed or the debt has NO ceiling etc.

As Speaker, you have the leverage to say — “You want more money to Ukraine? The 87k have to go. You want more money for Ukraine or to send to Palestine? The border must be closed now. You want more money for your pet “green” agenda? The debt ceiling is 1.5T and not a penny more. You want more money for trees in ‘underserved neighborhoods?’ Then you accept this percentage less in spending over the next FY.” Period.

Where exactly did McCarthy use that leverage to force Schumer’s or Biden’s hand? Show me where he did that. He literally holds our tax dollars in his hands and gets to decide how they’re used.

Everyone in this country knew there was a one vote to debate on vacating the seat. He certainly knew it, fact is, it could have happened before it did. When Kevin McCarthy said he was going to offer 1.5T in a debt ceiling increase most conservatives thought — that’s way too much. But, get it done and make sure spending cuts are in the next budget. He went and met with Biden’s team and literally gave them NO debt limit until March of 2025. Yes, AFTER the next presidential election. He could have been vacated right then. But, they were patient.

Then, he adjourns the House before sending any budget to the Senate giving the other body the opportunity to push a CR and act like they were fighting to keep the government open and if it closed, it would be on the House. What a ridiculous mistake. Think about it. All the Speaker had to do was put a budget together that took spending to pre-CVD and cut it by a percentage more and put it in Schumer’s lap. Then adjourn. This way, the pressure is on the Senate to agree, alter and re-present or turn it down. Then, any government shutdown would be on them. This was such a bad move that in reality handed Schumer and the Ds in the Senate the upper hand.

What Matt Gaetz did had nothing to do with him self-aggrandizing nor improving his standing somehow in the House. It actually served to hurt him with the uniparty but he did it anyway because it was the right thing to do. Kudos to the other reps who joined him in vacating McCarthy. Word I get from the Capitol is there were many more than 8 on board, but couldn’t do it for political reasons and they knew the Ds were not going to support McCarthy.

So, time to move forward. Jim Jordan should have easily won the gavel. NOT ONE R rep made a good case against him. Now, Byron Donalds has thrown his hat in the ring. He’s a money guy by trade and a great conservative. What could the issue be now? Take the vote, give him the gavel, and get to work.

This make sense to you? Let me know.

https://twitter.com/JoeTalkShow/status/1715668058478350410


15,062 posted on 10/21/2023 5:06:12 AM PDT by Lakeside Granny (IN GOD WE TRUST with TRUMP WE STAND)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Let’s hope there’s enough dems who are afraid of being called racists that Donalds gets the nod.

Here’s a glimmer of hope from one of our esteemed overlords:

https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1715699177617764542


15,063 posted on 10/21/2023 5:10:15 AM PDT by JudyinCanada (America's enemies want you to "trust the plan." Fight in reality, not the rabbit holes.)
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To: Lakeside Granny

That post was a complete overload of truth and common sense.

McCarthy always was, and always will be, a Deep Stater.

A pox on him and his house—actually Frank Luntz’s house.


15,068 posted on 10/21/2023 5:33:14 AM PDT by exit82 (Either the Democrat Party will survive or America will survive. But not both.)
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To: Lakeside Granny; JudyinCanada

Thanks, good points points.

“He went and met with Biden’s team and literally gave them NO debt limit until March of 2025. Yes, AFTER the next presidential election. He could have been vacated right then. But, they were patient.”

That was a bad move on Mccarthy part, and the timing would have been better, I think, if it had been done then.


15,080 posted on 10/21/2023 6:24:11 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (Despthaerately looking for new conspiracy theories as all the old ones have come true)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Excellent rant, by Joe Pags.

Good morning, Gran...and, TFT.


15,098 posted on 10/21/2023 7:13:24 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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