| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What? (IMAGES from video and video links), minnesota_bound wrote: |
Embers fly for miles and start fires. ransomnote: Yes. Who doesn't know this? Plenty of fuel for the fire in a car. ransomnote: To burn, yes. To almost vaporize and melt, no. It takes time and more fuel than that which could be present - so we don't agree. 'Radiated heat also starts fires. Many homes are lost due to this as the heat sets curtains and furniture and paint etc on fire. ransomnote: Steel, glass, tires and aluminum are not curtains/furniture/paint etc. No matter how the fire started, it didn't have radiant heat to vaporize the tires when it was driving on the road. The tires had to burn 100% down to dust and radial steel belts while parked without a nearby source of radiant heat. The car is in a gravel parking lot. The nearest grass 10-15 feet away is not right beside the car and it's short grass - not enough fuel. |
There is absolutely nothing unusual about cars and trucks burning to a crisp like that in the pic. That’s what they do. Every time, once they get going it’s all over.
Car tires especially are problematic. Once a tire is burning, forget it. Virtually impossible to extinguish even with a fire truck probably. Aluminium and associated alloys melt at around 1500° F. nothing unusual there either.
There’s also 5 quarts of petroleum oil in the engine, maybe 20 gallons of gasoline, lots plastics, foam, rubber, caked on grease, fabric.
Everyone needs to stay “Laser Focused” on the jaw dropping ineptitude of the authorities to this atrocity, instead of trying to blame outer space aliens or shadowy government groups.
I read a story that happened near where I live a few miles from West Hills, Calif (San Fernando valley) where a firetruck was on a dirt road fighting a fire when a fire swept up from below and went over them in seconds. The windows were blown out and one fireman on the other side of the truck facing away was burned. I personally saw a brush fire near Chatsworth Park North where smoke was going up a ravine from the bottom and instantly turned to fire as it got to the top.
Google: car fire melts
Google: brush fire embers
Google: fire tornado
Google: forest fire temperature degrees
Answer: temperatures of 1472° F to 2192° F
Click on Images. Many photos. Here is one in Tennessee
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1858946/tennessee-forest-fires-liquefy-aluminum-rims/
Merrillville - note the buildings and other cars untouched by the fire.
https://regionnewssource.org/merrillville-car-fires-overnight/
Flying embers
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/10/photos-embers-fly-wind-driven-california-wildfires/601075/
fire tornado
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/firefighters-capture-video-of-blazing-cyclone-called-a-firenado-in-the-u-k/