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To: pgyanke

Truth doesn’t grow. WE were promised the Holy Spirit. Not church leaders. We individuals. And it ought to be very obvious Pope Che doesn’t know Jesus or the Holy Spirit.

Everything we need to preach, teach and baptize we have revealed - in scripture. We have no need to Augustine to invent what is now called Calvinism, for example. No need for Pope Che to take things from a different perspective.

That is pure garbage from hell. If you follow Pope Che, that is where you will end. Indeed, if you worship The Church, it is where you already are.


67 posted on 08/29/2023 6:42:47 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Sigh... it always comes down to this.

1. We have the Holy Spirit but Scripture speaks to the authority of the Church for unity of faith.

Matt 18:15 “If your brother sins [against you], go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. 16 If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.

1 Tim 3:15 But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.

2. We are individuals but we are supposed to be united in faith. Look around and see the disunity brought by private interpretation. The devil uses the fallibility of the individual to divide our unity. We have the indwelling of the Spirit but looking at the world can we truly say that Christians are united in that same Spirit?

3. New Testament Scripture came from the Church, not the other way around. Jesus founded His Church upon the Apostles (Matt 16:18) and this Church is shown clearly throughout the New Testament as they wrote to the far-flung congregations for reproof and encouragement. There is no basis for the Epistles except that there was a central authority in the Church.

4. If you haven't noticed, we are having issues with the Church hierarchy and it's been a big problem since Vatican II. If you think Christianity will flourish in the world without the Catholic Church, you haven't been paying attention. We are praying and seeking correction from our Bridegroom. The Church is only holy in Her communion with Him.

70 posted on 08/29/2023 7:10:03 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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