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To: maddog55

We are in a proxy war with Russia. “Helping” Ukraine is irrelevant. Biden calls Putin a war criminal and wants him removed. SecDef Austin says the objective is to weaken the Russian military so they can’t do this again.

Special interests are profiting from this war. The US military-industrial complex is thriving. US exports of LNG to Europe have increased significantly with the elimination of the Nordstream pipelines. The corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine are making a fortune. Refugee and other NGO organizations are flush with money.

This war has been going on since 2014 when the US/EU engineered coup of the duly elected government of Ukraine spawned the separatist movement in the Donbas and precipitated the first Russian invasion, unopposed, that annexed Crimea. The same idiots that led this coup, i. e., Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan, Powers, in 2014 are back in power. For them, it is personal. Putin humiliated them in 2014. This war is payback. It could have been avoided, but they chose to cross Putin’s red line about NATO expansion. They wanted this war.

We have entered a new Cold War and caused a global political realignment that is more dangerous for us. Most of the world is ignoring the sanctions against Russia. Even NATO members like Hungary and Turkey are not fully complying with them. We are stuck in another endless war that is already costing us hundreds of billions of dollars adding to our budget deficits and national debt. Debt servicing costs will be over $600 billion this calendar year along with a $2 trillion budget deficit.

We are being led by fools and knaves. We have a corrupt, compromised President who took millions of dollars in bribes from Ukraine. We had a US President, Donald J. Trump, who was impeached over a telephone call to Ukraine inquiring about Biden corruption. Deep State has been involved significantly in Ukraine militarily, intelligence activities, bio labs, etc.

Why is Ukraine the hill to die on for the US? We have no strategic national interests at stake. We are prolonging this war causing more death and destruction for Ukrainians in a war they cannot win. If we really want to help Ukraine, we must end this war now. We have the leverage to do so.


18 posted on 08/14/2023 5:16:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
--- "We are being led by fools and knaves. We have a corrupt, compromised President who took millions of dollars in bribes from Ukraine. We had a US President, Donald J. Trump, who was impeached over a telephone call to Ukraine inquiring about Biden corruption. Deep State has been involved significantly in Ukraine militarily, intelligence activities, bio labs, etc."

Well captured in a short few sentences! Clarity! Kudos to you.

19 posted on 08/14/2023 5:45:37 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: kabar

Bump.


22 posted on 08/14/2023 5:52:04 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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