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To: daniel1212

“So once again your response is to blithely ignore doctrinal questions and reproofs of your assertions and abuse of Scripture but as with some many other esoterical cultists, defer to claims of being possessors of elite knowledge, and infer challengers are people broad brushed as “full of themselves” as yourself being above such. Nothing new in delusion here.”

NDE stories are a hothouse of error, but I’m sure it’s not easy being in the shoes of those who have them. Merrill Unger, in his “WHAT DEMONS CAN DO TO SAINTS”, suggested that “mediumistic gifts” were real but must be RENOUNCED. If they are real, I would agree with his solution and simply renounce them as failing the test of Scripture (which is breathed out by God!), and claim/stand in the freedom Christ Jesus won for ALL of us believers at Calvary. By faith. Shake those lies off!

This would result in a sudden loss of “story” and end the career built up around it (remunerated or not). In most cases this will not happen. Though “burdened” by their albatross, they must carry on in the face of every “Pharisee” who tries to correct them. Very sad.


267 posted on 08/13/2023 2:31:06 PM PDT by avenir ("They sang His praise...they soon forgot His works")
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To: avenir; aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212; metmom; Roman_War_Criminal

I have no doubt, that these new age gurus, like the Egyptian magicians, may have certain “powers,” and may be able to do things, that most of us normal people, can’t do, and shouldn’t do anyway. I have no doubt, they can predict things, and physically see things we can’t see. The problem is, these people think it’s from God. It isn’t. It’s from the god of this world. They need to renounce it, before it destroys them in the lake of fire. I think, however, most won’t renounce it, and WILL end up in the lake that burns. Now that, is sad.


268 posted on 08/13/2023 3:43:27 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: avenir
NDE stories are a hothouse of error, but I’m sure it’s not easy being in the shoes of those who have them. Merrill Unger, in his “WHAT DEMONS CAN DO TO SAINTS”, suggested that “mediumistic gifts” were real but must be RENOUNCED. If they are real, I would agree with his solution and simply renounce them as failing the test of Scripture (which is breathed out by God!), and claim/stand in the freedom Christ Jesus won for ALL of us believers at Calvary. By faith. Shake those lies off!

I do not class all NDE accounts the same, much less equate them all with the class of cultic esoterical revelation knowledge gurus being reproved here. It is one thing to simply testify to experiences as most of those in Dr. Maurice Rawlings' "To Hell and Back Documentary," (esp. that of Ron Regan, and the atheist Dr. Whittier but not Howard Storm's) and that of McCormack in "A Glimpse of Eternity , versus the likes of Swedenborg and the Roy Masters and the miracles of false revelation teacher William Branham.

271 posted on 08/13/2023 8:14:18 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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