Posted on 08/10/2023 6:58:58 PM PDT by tired&retired
I think we are debating semantics while we are actually in agreement.
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For some ideas, yes, I agree, the ones based on the Word who is Jesus Christ. Some others stated here, though, are bleed-over from New Age-type paganistic beliefs. It appears you are so well read and nuanced you use the New Age terms, which could cause others to stumble. The spiritual danger alarm goes off when I see them. Isn’t it true we must be careful to interact with others in a way that’s pleasing to God? It takes discernment powered by His Holy Spirit alone. This prayer is for everyone here:
Prayer For Those That Are Seeking Godly Wisdom
Dear Lord, give me I pray, a true and biblical understanding of how to live godly in Christ Jesus. I realise more and more how hateful sin is to You Father God, and I realise that I must have been hurting You by my many petty indulgences, which I now realise is sin in Your eyes.
Lord, I want to develop a godly perspective and to live a righteous life that is pleasing to You, and I realise that I must forget the things that are in the past and press on to the upward call I have in Christ Jesus.
Lord, I know that reverence for You is the first step to wisdom, and I pray that You would develop in me a godly fear and a humble respect for all those things that are so objectionable to the world mindset, but which is pleasing in Your sight.
Give me godly wisdom I pray, to follow after that which is good and give me wise discernment to know those things that are displeasing to You, and to flee far from anything that could tempt me to sin against You.
Open Your Word I pray to my understanding, and draw me ever closer to Yourself, so that like Job I can say, “I have heard of You with my ears but now You have opened my eyes to a deeper spiritual understanding of Who You truly are.” I ask this in Jesus’ name,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/prayer/prayer-for-those-that-are-seeking-godly-wisdom-1296
That is a very powerful depiction.
QUESTION
Who was Joseph Smith?
ANSWER
Joseph Smith is widely known as the founder of the Mormon Church, also known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Joseph Smith from an early age was thought to have certain occult powers. He was known at a young age as a seer and reportedly used a seer stone to tell him where he could find such precious metals as silver. Both he and his father were known “treasure seekers” and used divination and magic to carry out treasure-seeking excursions. This, of course, brought him a name and a reputation. To this day, he is considered by some a saint and by others a complete charlatan. ...
https://www.gotquestions.org/Joseph-Smith.html
Thank you, Elsie.
It’s been many years since I read them both, completely.
I specifically remember some of the scriptures relating to dealing with spirits and warning of imitators. I’m trying to remember as it has been over twenty years since I read them, but my interpretation at the time was that part of it did not fit my experiential reality.
I use the Bible as my comparison for anything that I read in other religions. Where conflict arises, I first do a more comprehensive search of related Bible Scriptures. Then I go to the concordance to determine if there is possibly a mis-translation or other interpretation of the Bible scriptures.
Then I prayerfully meditate on it, asking the Holy Spirit for further guidance.
The hardest reconciliations are when my actual experiences differ with the normal interpretations of the Bible scriptures. Again, I rely of the Bible, but dig much deeper.
For example, when I’m reading a soul and examine the details of when this soul was in its mother’s womb, then back to conception, and then back a bit further, I am in the stored memory of the death experience of the past life. These are real physical objects and often directly correlate with birth defects, personality attributes, or phobias. Where do people think instinct comes from? It’s not just nature vs. nurture, it is often nurture in the current life vs. nurture prior to this life. This area of experience really tormented me and took a lot of research, prayer and contemplation to reconcile my perceived reality with the Bible. I do not impose my beliefs on others, nor do I need the validation of others to accept them at accurate.
Where I really must be careful is in reading and listening to the research done by scholars like Bart Ehrman, New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the origins and development of early Christianity. He lives and teaches here in Chapel Hill and I’ve heard him speak several times. I respect his work. Again, I am not one to just swallow someone else’s opinion, but need to carefully examine supporting facts and research.
He has written over 30 books and is quite a scholar. I do not agree with him on many of his contentions, but he stimulates my critical thinking, so I keep investigating. Here is a link to his faculty bio at UNC for anyone interested:
https://religion.unc.edu/_people/full-time-faculty/ehrman/
“Isn’t it true we must be careful to interact with others in a way that’s pleasing to God? It takes discernment powered by His Holy Spirit alone. This prayer is for everyone here:”
ABSOLUTELY AGREE. Thank you for the prayer.
That’s wonderful you’ve repented and asked Jesus Christ to be your Savior, after being an agnostic! Thanks and glory to God for His miracles.
It sounds like you are very intuitive. Have you considered there is only one reality, which is God’s? It must be exhausting straddling the fence. Ask thanks to Him that we can rest and trust in Him even in difficult times.
Let’s go to Him and continue to pray for discernment. Dear Holy Father, please show us the errors in our thinking and burn away any false wisdom found there. Thank you for your spiritual armor as we study world religions so ideas not from you are rejected and rebuked. Protect us from lying spirits by filling us with Your Holy Spirit exclusively, the only true source of Your power and influence. Turn the counterfeit away when they attack us, in the Name of Jesus.
Prayer To Be Wise In The Things Of God
Heavenly Father, as I look through the Bible at the great cloud of witnesses in both the Old and New Testaments, all of whom were pleasing in Your sight, it is my desire to live the life of faith that they demonstrated so beautifully, and to become wise in the things of God.
Lord, I want to know more of You, to gain a deeper knowledge of Your Word and to discover Your perfect will for my life.
Father, I desire to make a difference in this world and to live for You, even when I know that it will lose me the respect of neighbours and friends, and cost me very dearly.
Teach me Your ways I pray. Open the eyes of my heart to understand more of Your Word. Unblock my ears to Your gentle voice and open My eyes to see Jesus in all that I say and do. Thank You, Father, that Christ is both the power of God and the wisdom of God.
I pray that I may know more of the Lord Jesus in His humanity, and ask that I may be increasingly transformed into the likeness of His image, and live as He did in humble obedience to Your voice, and increasing in wisdom with every passing day. I ask this in Jesus’ name,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/prayer/prayer-to-be-wise-in-the-things-of-god-1298
God tends to use some of the biggest screw-ups to do his most important work.
Moses was a murderer before God came to him to lead His people out of Egypt. Even then, Moses argued with God.
Saul, as a Pharisaic Jew was persecuting Christians, was in attendance when Steven was stoned to death at the Sanhedrin, and then became Paul, the greatest evangelist in the Bible after Jesus.
Peter denied Jesus, cut off the slave’s ear, yet he became the Father of the church.
There are many examples in the OT, such as David.
Some of my greatest and most valuable lessons in life came through interaction with people I absolutely detest. God works in strange ways at times.
You are so welcome!! I’ll remember to keep you in prayer. Thank you for yours as well. God’s Holy Spirit continues His purifying work in us. For that I’m so thankful. May we continue to refill in His pure fountain of Truth, Life and Love, made possible only through Jesus Christ our Lord, King and SAVIOR! Thank you Lord Jesus!!
Prayer To Be Led By The Holy Spirit
Heavenly Father, how I thank You for my salvation, which You have given to me as a free gift of grace by faith in the Lord Jesus. Thank You also, that Your Holy Spirit has made me alive in Him and placed me into the family of God and the body of Christ.
Thank You, that He has set His seal of ownership upon me and taken up residence within my heart, so as to empower me in my spiritual walk, as He gradually transforms me into a lovely likeness of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
I pray that the Holy Spirit would lead and guide in all things, and that I would learn to listen to the gentle promptings of His voice, as I read Your Word or commune with You in prayer.
Give me grace to recognise His still small voice as I search though the scriptures each day, and furnish me with the wisdom I need to discern Your spiritual nudges, through godly Christians, who may be prompted to offer direction or give me advice.
May I maintain an open heart and develop a teachable spirit, and I pray that may I walk in Your ways and live a life that is well pleasing to You, and which glorifies my Father in heaven. I ask this in Jesus’ name,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/prayer/prayer-to-be-led-by-the-holy-spirit-1299
Amen
Amen! Yes that is so true! I’m actually going through that myself right now. It isn’t easy but I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me! I have complete trust in Jesus working in and transforming me, even though I don’t always understand why. Focus on Him and spend time with Him in the Word.
Prayer For Spiritual Awakening And Growth
Dear Father in heaven, I have been drifting for too long in my spiritual walk and I know that I need a spiritual wake-up call. I pray that by Your grace, You would help me to waken myself up from this spiritual slumber and turn from any spiritual laziness and indifference I may have shown towards You. Rekindle the smoking embers of my faith and hope, my trust and obedience, I pray.
How I praise and thank You that by grace You sent Your Holy Spirit to indwell my heart and that my body has now become a holy temple of God. Forgive me Lord, for the times I have ignored this truth and have neglected to live this out in my life.
Forgive me for the many times I must have grieved or quenched Your work in my life, and renew a right spirit within me, I pray. Help me Lord, to put away my carelessness or attitude of indifference and may I grow in grace and in a knowledge of You, knowing that this is Your will in the lives of each of Your children.
Uphold me with Your righteous right hand and keep me ever looking to Jesus, Who is both author and finisher of my fatih. This I ask in His name, Who died for me so that I might live with Him in glory,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/prayer/prayer-for-spiritual-awakening-and-growth-1300
“That’s wonderful you’ve repented and asked Jesus Christ to be your Savior, after being an agnostic! Thanks and glory to God for His miracles.”
Yes... He had to really hit me hard in the side of my head and give me an experience that compares to Saul on the road to Damascus to get my attention! It was both physically and emotionally painful, but I am extremely grateful for it. The Dark-Night-of-the-Soul and despair are the narrow window to finding Jesus.
The greatest trap or obstacle in building a personal relationship with Jesus and God is a spiritual ego, where we own the knowledge and experiences as a possession and feel we are someone special. We form an individual identity around the possession. Then we end up becoming full of ourselves and try to play God. This is especially true when extreme healing miracles happen. Humility is absolutely critical to dying daily. Although I may sound authoritative based upon my experiences, I always reserve the right to be wrong.
When I am near a person, I feel their ego as a horizontal flow of consciousness that blocks their consciousness from shifting away from an earthly focus to a focus on God. (While it is a Buddhist concept, attachment is also critically important in blocking our relationship with God. Whether it be greed, pride, or any other attachment, we must detach from earthly matters to fully experience God.)
Loving God truly is the most important commandment as it shifts a persons consciousness from the horizontal earthly axis to a Divine vertical axis.
I’m a rapture guy...I don’t get so much into the “order” of when the rapture occurs in the timing of things to come but one fine day...the graves of Christians will be emptied and then the rest of us who are living will be taken up.
I have an OPINION of “around the times” when it might occur based on what Christ said about the Days of Lot and the Days of Noah and also based then on reading Revelation about the death of the two witnesses and how the beast demands the marking in the mid part of the 7 years of Tribulation. It’s just an OPINION...in which case that and 2 dollars and change gets me coffee at McDonalds.***
If I ever get a chance to meet you...coffee and breakfast on me Elsie!
***(a period of some years prior to that point of the Beast’s signing of the false peace treaty to the taking up of the witnesses...that is when I think the rapture might occur...the poor unfortunates who get left who decide they will resist the marking will have it tough but God will offer some protections, and they will have the testimony of the Word and the blood of the Lamb to help them stand strong even to the point of death)
“By the way, the feet and lower leg cramping that sometimes moves up the legs into the knees and hips is also due to the earths energy shifting.”
“My wife says it’s because I do not drink enough water.”
The solution is first prayer and asking Jesus for help. You might notice that at first they get worse, and then move around. They usually enter in the arches of the feet and then move up the legs. I’ve also encountered them entering a person’s palm on their hand and move up the arm, creating paralysis on the entire side of the body that appears to be a stroke.
Years ago I was working with a woman that was in a deep depression. She was in her thirties. This was very early in my experiences, over 30 years ago.
For some reason I was guided to hold both of her hands and I asked her to say the Lord’s Prayer with me. About half way through the prayer, this demon came out of her, hit me right in my heart and sent me flying backward across the room into the wall. She suddenly felt fine, the best she had felt in many years. I told her that if she felt any cramping in her hands of feet again, to start saying the Lord’s Prayer immediately.
I on the other hand felt like hell, like a truck had run over me. It took a few days, but using prayer I managed to move it out. First it felt like a 2x4 being driven through my heart it hurt so bad. I grabbed my heart area with my right hand, trying to remove the pain, and it moved out of my heart into my right hand. The cramps were terrible, like a Charlie horse in my hand. Using prayer, I managed to push it out of my hand.
I stopped by her place of business a few days later as I was passing by, and asked her how she was doing. She explained that she had an unusual situation where her right hand cramped up and then her arm. Then the right side of her body. She and her husband thought she was having a stroke and were getting ready to go to the hospital when she remembered my advice to say the Lord’s Prayer.
When she said it, slowly the cramping moved down her arm and back out her right hand. I asked her when this happened?
She replied Sunday evening about 7 pm. (The exact time I pushed it out of my hand about 15 miles away.)
It stayed around her home, trying to move back into her, so she kept saying the Lord’s Prayer. It freaked out her husband as doors would open and close by themselves and the floor would creak like someone was walking across it.
A few days later during another session, a bright Loving Light appeared to me. He worked through me to remove a spirit attachment from another woman. I asked Him for help on another matter and He replied, “Just ask and it shall be done.”
I asked and after a brief pause, He replied, “It is done.” He removed the demonic spirit from the other woman’s house.
This was my first meeting with Archangel Michael. At the time He told me His name was Mi-Ki-El, and I didn’t realize it was Michael. He has been with me ever since and actually does the work. The profound Love and Light is so strong when He appears that I experience the taste of Heaven shining through Him. Unlike the Holy Spirit that is a golden swirling light, Michael is a very bright radiant white Light. (The higher you go in the hierarchy of levels, the greater the Love and the brighter the Light.)
I share this not to brag, but to help others understand the reality of God, Jesus, the Angels, and evil.
May everyone find this connection within them and experience it.
Blessings
“It’s not just gravity, it’s consciousness.”
Oh I get it. But I lean towards electromagnetism, which of course affects everything on the subatomic level even the carrier frequencies of consciousness.
I would like to THANK everyone who said a prayer for me this morning. I felt several of them. I cannot explain it, but I feel people’s prayers when they pray for me. It’s an unmistakable feeling.
They are very much appreciated.
There are a lot of good people on FR.
🙏🙏🙏
Mormons challenge us to read their book and pray about it’s authenticity.
It isn’t “our” book, and authenticity is barely a beginning.
It sounds to me the greater challenge for you would be coming to terms with the translator
This first happened many years ago when I was scheduled to go to a Carmelite Monastery in Pennsylvania for a few days of contemplative prayer. They said to arrive around 10 am after the morning chores were done.
At 7:15 in the morning I was alone on my farm and I felt this wonderful prayerful energy, but didn’t recognize who it was that was praying.(Each soul has its own frequency)
Later that morning at 10 am I pulled into the Monastery, about 10 miles from my farm. An old Nun about 90 years old came out to greet me. Immediately, I recognized her energy and thanked her for the prayer she said for me at 7:15 that morning.
She looked puzzled and replied, “That’s exactly when I said my prayers.” I said “Thank You” again, “I felt them.”
Just as you would recognize the tone of someone’s voice and know who is speaking, soul energy has a similar resonance to each person.
That is what I felt this morning. People need to know that their prayers broadcast and are heard.
Reading, it seems much of who you have dealt with is women.
In that light, discounting the self convictions of those that attempted to condem the woman taken in adultery, what is your take on Proverbs 5, 7 and John 4 as to the debauchery and the existence of today’s age overwhelming whoredom of women?
Women are more in touch with their emotions, so it is easier working with women.
Much of my work involves stimulating stored memories in the soul of a person many feet from their physical body. Due to the attributes of feminine consciousness vs. masculine consciousness, it is much easier for the female to respond with greater physical movement. While men tend to be much less in touch with their emotions so there is much less physical response.
The first requirement for healing is that the person wants to be healed. Men tend to not own their wounds.
Also, women tend to grow spiritually must faster than men, so they seek help long before men. If you look at church attendance, there are usually far more women than men.
Men’s egos usually prevent them from seeking help.
I would say that it is now closer to even as I’ve been working with military PTSD.
John 4 does not speak of illicit behavior. We have no idea if her previous husbands are alive. We can project our own perceptions onto it, but the facts are not disclosed.
Sorry, I do not spend much time in the OT, SO I reserve comment on that.
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