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I believe the Income Tax is Unconstitutional however if you take this hardline position they will throw you in jail.

Many "tax prostestors" for example Irwin Schiff have learned this. He died in prison. It's not a good idea.

They will never rule against the government collecting taxes I believe even if it's technically unconstitutional ....

It sucks!

1 posted on 08/09/2023 11:47:18 PM PDT by RandFan
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2 posted on 08/09/2023 11:49:40 PM PDT by RandFan
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is this really about tax issues of dividens
that are reinvested?


3 posted on 08/10/2023 12:00:33 AM PDT by RockyTx
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I want to see proof it was actually ratified. Little tough to believe we would do that to ourselves


4 posted on 08/10/2023 12:04:18 AM PDT by I got the rope
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How is this any different then me being forced to pay taxes on “profit” my S corp made, without me ever seeing a dime?


5 posted on 08/10/2023 12:07:25 AM PDT by SPDSHDW (Ron DeSantis. The latest GOPe champion in a long list of winners. Jeb! Mitt Romney, and John McStain)
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Does anyone else remember the proposed simple income tax form:

1) Enter the amount you earned ____________
2) Send it in

Are we there yet???


10 posted on 08/10/2023 12:58:30 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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"Oh, it's just a tax."


14 posted on 08/10/2023 1:23:46 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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rax ping


15 posted on 08/10/2023 1:33:51 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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It’s “ the Hill,” so I’ll take its characterization of the issue with a grain of salt, but if a SCOTUS decision could really do all that, There’s no way Roberts and possibly Kavanaugh and Barrett won’t vote with the left.


18 posted on 08/10/2023 3:21:04 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Chief Justice Roberts is not going to allow anything to rock the boat with the U.S. tax code. Even if an opinion was written given the plaintiff relief requested, it would be so narrowly written that it would only apply in a very limited way so as not to interfere with the tax code itself.


19 posted on 08/10/2023 3:27:46 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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Advocacy journalism.


22 posted on 08/10/2023 3:57:25 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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"profits were taxed even if shareholders never received the income"

"income must be “clearly realized” for it to be taxable"

Sounds like they are mixing apples and oranges and will lose this case if that's the fundamental basis of it.

Corporations receive profits and shareholders receive dividends. Two different things. Two different entities (corp vs individual). Two different sets of tax laws.

The fundamental question as to whether the US can tax overseas income is another story and may be the angle they're actually taking, but that's not apparent in the article.

23 posted on 08/10/2023 4:05:59 AM PDT by fruser1
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If the fed can print $trillions at will, why do we pay any tax at all?


25 posted on 08/10/2023 5:36:44 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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If nothing is done, taxes will go up to the highest ever (percentage) in history in 2026. I’m hoping politicians wake up to this mess coming.


28 posted on 08/10/2023 6:19:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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Worst amendment ever. As had been warned, “The power to tax is the power to destroy.” and the tax code has been used for that since 1913.


29 posted on 08/10/2023 6:21:03 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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If the hill is upset about it, it must be good.


30 posted on 08/10/2023 6:21:04 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Amendment 16
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

In what galaxy does “taxes on incomes” mean taxes on corporate profits? Obviously “incomes” means personal incomes. Corporate income taxes followed by personal income taxes, taxes the same money twice, and that’s obviously NOT what the 16th authorizes.


32 posted on 08/10/2023 6:55:08 AM PDT by nagant
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I believe the Income Tax is Unconstitutional however if you take this hardline position they will throw you in jail.

Upstate NY guy, Bob Schultz said the same for years, also had a court case at SCOTUS. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2001/bob-schulz%E2%80%99s-we-people-group-don-quixote-queensbury https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-1626/179849/20210521173412421_20210521-173153-95753755-00002139.pdf

33 posted on 08/10/2023 7:00:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Show me any communist regime in history that has reduced taxation of its serfs...


37 posted on 08/10/2023 11:00:53 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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39 posted on 08/10/2023 12:23:37 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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Now do away with property taxes.


40 posted on 08/10/2023 2:41:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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