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NATO's Stoltenberg says Turkey agrees to move ahead with Sweden's NATO bid
Reuters ^ | July 10, 2023 | [none]

Posted on 07/10/2023 1:42:43 PM PDT by Miami Rebel

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To: ought-six

I believe in the rule of law, upon which this country was founded

The US had no rule of law. Only a moron thinks it does. The US has a law of ‘selective prosecution’ and ‘fabricating crimes to take out political opponents’ and ‘putting people in prison for far less than what ANTIFA/BLM did’.

You are assuming there is some Big Brother, or Wizard of Oz, or secretive global hegemon whose bidding must be obeyed.

And if you don’t think there isn’t, you have more than doubled down on stupidity. Biden doesn’t run anything. The guy in the UK does nothing but take orders. Macron does nothing.

Every year, these puppets show up to Bilderberg to get lectured by Schwab and Gates and others. For any sane thinking person to ignore or that, clearly shows a level of ignorance that is hard to gauge.

Sweden would have been in weeks ago had it not been for Turkey and someone burning a Koran.

So, there are only two options, Sparky, Ukraine goes down in a smoldering heap of rubble and Putin has the ability to expose all that was going on there.

Or the US and its little brother NATO rides in to save the day.

No other way around it, Sparky. Might be time to dust off your trusty rifle, shine up some boots and get ready to do some fighting over there. As I think the pro-war cheerleaders like yourself should be the first on the ground.


21 posted on 07/11/2023 1:07:21 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Miami Rebel; All

She’s just trying to hitch her horse to the Pres Trump cart, but I give her a little credit for trying.

BREAKING NEWS: Marjorie Taylor Greene Unveils Amendments To Pull U.S. From NATO, End Ukraine Funding

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xA2QIY7jF1g&feature=youtu.be


22 posted on 07/11/2023 1:12:36 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

“The US had no rule of law.”

Then how are you still alive? The rule of law is what is keeping the ferals from making you a tree ornament.

And, if the US had no rule of law there would be no US Constitution. You defeatists are a disgrace. John Stuart Mill had people like you in mind when he wrote: “The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

“Only a moron thinks it does. The US has a law of ‘selective prosecution’ and ‘fabricating crimes to take out political opponents’ and ‘putting people in prison for far less than what ANTIFA/BLM did’.”

The US doesn’t have such laws (i.e., selective prosecution and fabricating crimes); and those are a perversion of the laws, not the laws themselves. The Democrat party plays that game (perversion of the laws for its own gain); and it gets away with it because people like you give in to them.
In other words, you surrendered; as your post suggests.

“And if you don’t think there isn’t, you have more than doubled down on stupidity.”

So, name him, or her, or them. You say all these world leaders just take orders from him, or her, or them; so, give us the name or names. And, even if there is or are such a person or persons; how is it that they are still getting away with it? Don’t you think that of the 8 billion people on earth, and the 200-odd countries worldwide, that SOMEONE would have stopped them and their flying monkeys? You’re living in fantasyland.

“Every year, these puppets show up to Bilderberg to get lectured by Schwab and Gates and others. For any sane thinking person to ignore or that, clearly shows a level of ignorance that is hard to gauge.”

Oh, this old scaremongering. I have no idea how old you are — though you sound young — but these conspiracy theories have always been with us. I remember, just in my lifetime (I am in my 70s) when it was the Freemasons; and the Illuminati; and the Bilderberger Group; and the Shadow Government; and the New World Order; hell, I remember when it was the JESUITS! Paranoid and insecure people will usually create or believe anything that will give them some excuse for their own misfortunes or pathetic lot in life.

“Sweden would have been in weeks ago had it not been for Turkey and someone burning a Koran.”

BS. Turkey doesn’t give a rat’s ass about that; it just used that as an excuse to exert pressure on someone in Europe to grease its way into the EU. And, it worked! That’s the way Turkey plays the game.

“So, there are only two options, Sparky...” Ukraine goes down in a smoldering heap of rubble and Putin has the ability to expose all that was going on there.”

Ah, you must have read the Story of Sparky, which I had posted here on FR many months ago; and you recognized yourself in Sparky.

“...Ukraine goes down in a smoldering heap of rubble and Putin has the ability to expose all that was going on there.”

Well, that is not an either/or (which would be two options); rather, that is just a compound one (hence your use of the conjunction “and”). You see, if you were proposing two options, one would exclude the other; but, you did just the opposite. Learn to write a coherent sentence, and your posts will be the better for it.

“No other way around it, Sparky. Might be time to dust off your trusty rifle, shine up some boots and get ready to do some fighting over there. As I think the pro-war cheerleaders like yourself should be the first on the ground.”

Yeah, you must be a leftist; because you revert to what leftists always do: Assume facts not in evidence, jump to conclusions, and rush to judgment. You see, I am for Ukraine defending itself against an unjustified invasion by a larger and stronger neighbor, an invasion that is an existential threat to Ukraine. It is people who are against a nation defending itself under such circumstances that are the true pro-war cheerleaders. Unless — as I strongly suspect is the case with you — one is a coward who will shrink at the slightest shadow that may one’s path, or panic at the faintest noise.

Yeah; you’ve already surrendered.


23 posted on 07/11/2023 2:31:23 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

So, name him, or her, or them

Hillary Clinton
Podesta brothers …. Did the same exact thing that Manafort went to prison for. Manafort wasn’t allowed to see the “evidence”’they used against him. His alleged crimes were “ committed” while he was working with the Podestas

Ray Epps

John Sullivan….ANTIFA member that was filming inside the Capitol on 6Jan….stated that they were going to “burn this mF’er to the ground, filmed Ashli Babbitt being murdered….sold his video to CNN(?) for $70k, but DOJ took it

Ted Stevens….DOJ withheld exculpatory evidence and neither of the lawyers received any punishment

Clinesmith committed perjury to FISC. Nothing and is allowed to keep his law license.

McCabe, Page, Strzok, Baker. All lied to the IG

At the end of they, you’re just not a smart man or woman.

Oh yeah. One more person selectively prosecuted…..President Donald J Trump

NY had no probabl cause to get his tax returns, they did anyway

A woman accused him of rape, but doesn’t remember when it happened and NYS modified the law so the statute of limitations, which had run out years ago, did not apply and he was convicted and ordered to pay $5million and now she’s suing him again for calling her a liar.

No one knows what is in the affidavit for the MarALago warrant and the DOJ is doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the details.


24 posted on 07/11/2023 5:51:19 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

“Breaking”? Let’s see it get to a floor vote before calling it “Breaking!” Otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. (How many times in the past year have we heard “Impeachment!” only see it evaporate?


25 posted on 07/11/2023 6:02:22 PM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sweden-passes-nato-accession-bill-it-waits-ratification-2023-03-22/

Just a formality now.


26 posted on 07/11/2023 6:39:45 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

You lost the argument, kid.

In your post #19 you said, “All you have to do is watch video of Biden at the beach and walking with King Charles to know that he isn’t in charge of anything. He and the others will do as they’re told. If they’re told to let Ukraine in, Ukraine is in.”

I challenged you on that, in my post #20: “You are assuming there is some Big Brother, or Wizard of Oz, or secretive global hegemon whose bidding must be obeyed. That is the stuff of midnight AM radio. It is not reality.”

And how did you respond to that? Here, in your post #21: “And if you don’t think there isn’t, you have more than doubled down on stupidity. Biden doesn’t run anything. The guy in the UK does nothing but take orders. Macron does nothing.”

To which I replied, in post #23: “So, name him, or her, or them. You say all these world leaders just take orders from him, or her, or them; so, give us the name or names.”

And, preposterously, you listed these names, in your post #24: “Hillary Clinton; the Podesta brothers; Ray Epps; John Sullivan; Ted Stevens; Clinesmith; McCabe; Page; Strzok; Baker.”

Are you @#$%^&* kidding me? You say that world leaders do nothing and take orders from…wait for it: Hillary Clinton; the Podesta brothers; Ray Epps; John Sullivan; Ted Stevens; Clinesmith; McCabe; Page; Strzok; Baker.”

But I do want to the thank you for giving me one of the best laughs I’ve had all day. I mean, who knew that the likes of Ray Epps and Peter Strzok held such sway over European leaders; and those leaders march to the tune played to them by Epps and Strzok and the others, particularly on whether or not Ukraine is admitted into NATO?

Give it up, kid. You are embarrassing yourself.


27 posted on 07/11/2023 6:45:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

You are a special kind of stupid. You lead a very odd life, there Sparky.

The people were named. The Bilderberg crew.

As for the other names I’m mentioned, I wrote them down to demonstrate that the US does not operate under the rule of law anymore.

But, as usual, you’re not smart enough to understand any of that.

You just sit there with your trusty rifle, Sparky, and dream of war because Zelensky good, Putin bad.


28 posted on 07/11/2023 9:31:55 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Nice try, kid. You can try to walk back your colossal gaffe by changing your roster but it won’t fly; because, kid, your own words sink you (as I pointed out in my previous post).

You are a conspiracy theorist of the most pathetic sort, as you embrace such fantasy because you can’t deal with reality. Life must be very difficult for you to handle.


29 posted on 07/12/2023 6:27:52 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

You’re probably the only person, at least on this forum that doesn’t think there are people behind the scenes, pulling all the puppet strings.

So, at the end of the day, Sparky, you ain’t too bright.


30 posted on 07/12/2023 8:37:38 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

“You’re probably the only person, at least on this forum that doesn’t think there are people behind the scenes, pulling all the puppet strings.”

So name them. The list you provided was laughable, and that includes George Soros and Klaus Schwab (but especially Ray Epps).


31 posted on 07/12/2023 8:48:27 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Name who moron?


32 posted on 07/12/2023 12:45:34 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

“Name who moron?”

Are you really that dense? Look at my post: It was a direct response to your statement, “...there are people behind the scenes, pulling all the puppet strings.”

I asked you to name them, kid; and I mean the REAL puppeteers, not the laughable ones you listed previously, which included Ray Epps.

So, name them, kid.


33 posted on 07/12/2023 2:08:48 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Lets see...

Those that have been the beneficiaries of selective prosecutions:

Clinton, Podesta brothers, Strzok, McCabe, Page, Baker, Clinesmith, DOJ lawyers that prosecuted Ted Stevens, ANTIFA Sullivan, Ray Epps

Those that are pulling the puppet strings:

Blackrock/Fink, Vanguard, Schwab/WEF, Big Pharma, Obama, Unelected bureaucrats in the EU, Big Tech, Wall St hedge funds, Soros, Gates, Steyer, the rest of the Bilderberg/Davos group, CFR folks, Google...do I know all of their names? NOPE. Do I need to? NOPE.

For someone to deny that these folks don’t dictate what happens is someone that is really, really ignorant.

Joe Biden, Harris, Blinken, and the rest do not have a clue, on anything. They take orders. Your President gets lost on stage and needs help to get off of one. They are mere puppets to those folks. You can call me a conspiracy theorists all you want.

There’s my answer Kid Sparky. Like it or not. You’re a troubled person, I do know that.


34 posted on 07/12/2023 3:40:33 PM PDT by qaz123
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“Those that have been the beneficiaries of selective prosecutions: Clinton, Podesta brothers, Strzok, McCabe, Page, Baker, Clinesmith, DOJ lawyers that prosecuted Ted Stevens, ANTIFA Sullivan, Ray Epps.”

But, son; you listed those folks in response to my challenge to you to list the “puppeteers.”

And, Stevens? You are now claiming he was a victim of the government, when just a few posts ago you said he was one of the puppeteers! Which is it?

Ah, the puppeteers: You list the same old litany of “evil-doers” that are easy to dislike. Are they influential? To a degree, yes; as is anyone with wealth and power. But any influence they may have is targeted and specific, and is not absolute. For instance, there’s no question about Soros having influence over some of the DA’s in the US; but many of those DA’s are being removed. And, remember son, you claimed there are European presidents and prime ministers who will do NOTHING unless told to do so by their puppeteers. That is hyperbole, pure and simple.

Perhaps with one exception: I think Obama is for the most part calling the shots for the whole Democrat party apparatus.

“Joe Biden, Harris, Blinken, and the rest do not have a clue, on anything.”

Well, they never have.

“They take orders.”

Well, subordinates take orders from their superiors. Thus, Blinken and Harris and anyone in the executive branch of government is subject to orders from the executive (Biden). As for Biden, he is a clueless dolt. Unfortunately, he was legally sworn in as president. So, as much as we despise him, and believe he was likely given the presidency by fraud, the fact remains he was — as I said above — legally sworn in as president. That makes him LEGALLY the president of the US. I don’t like it; but there it is. And, unfortunately, we are stuck with him and that imbecilic hyena of a VP until January, 2025.

You need to curb your emotion, kid. It is doing you no favors.


35 posted on 07/12/2023 4:26:13 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

You have way too much time on your hands.

You’re the guy that shows up at the local barbershop, hardware store or gun store and just lingers. Running your mouth.

But people feel sorry for you so they don’t have the heart to tell you to leave


36 posted on 07/12/2023 5:04:42 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

“You have way too much time on your hands.”

Well, I’m retired. But today it’s raining and the tornado sirens have been going off, so I’m inside until the weather blows through. Otherwise, I’d be outside. So, today I do have some time on my hands.

“You’re the guy that shows up at the local barbershop, hardware store or gun store and just lingers. Running your mouth.”

Nice try, kid. You just can’t abide someone getting the better of you, and so you immediately fall back on emotion, which sinks you ever deeper.

You see, kid; I deal in facts and reality; and those are beyond your ken. But, it’s entertaining conversing with you, because you are so “out there.” And when you let your emotions take control; well, you’re a real hoot.

“But people feel sorry for you so they don’t have the heart to tell you to leave.”

You’re talking to the mirror, kid.


37 posted on 07/12/2023 5:18:18 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Getting the better of me……Ha ha ha ha

I’m just done dealing with an imbecile


38 posted on 07/13/2023 4:29:37 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Nice try, kid.


39 posted on 07/13/2023 6:57:33 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Recognition of Turkey’s annexation of Northern Cyprus.


40 posted on 07/13/2023 6:59:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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