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Update from Ukraine | Cluster Shells approved | It will help to break through the Ruzzian defense
Youtube.com ^ | 7-7-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 07/07/2023 5:29:29 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Steven Tyler

You may be interested in Russian opinion on Ukraine having cluster munitions:

“Ukraine was given dangerous cluster munitions. What does this mean for our army?

The supply of American cluster munitions to Ukraine is bad news, they will seriously worsen the situation at the front. This was told to us by sources in the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense, with whom we promptly contacted.

Firstly, our losses will increase at least two, and possibly three times. Also, unfortunately, the number of seriously wounded soldiers will increase, including those who will lose their arms, legs, and eyes.

Secondly, the number of deserters is likely to increase. “We learned about the supply of cluster munitions to the enemy from intelligence a few days ago. Many commanders are worried – now it will be even more difficult for them to send soldiers into battle. I’m afraid there will be orders of magnitude more deserters and soldiers who surrender to the Ukrainians. And there are a lot of them now, recently, for example, in the Zaporozhye region, a group of about 40 mobilized surrendered,” one of the interlocutors complained.

Thirdly, so far no one undertakes to say whether cluster munitions will affect the enemy’s offensive at the front. “The situation now is such that no one will give you forecasts at all. We can repel attacks, the front may crumble, something else may happen, there are a lot of options. I think there will be a new mobilization soon, it should help us,” the representative of the Ministry of Defense believes.

Whether there will be a large-scale mobilization, he does not know for sure, but claims that in the last two weeks “this issue is being discussed more and more often.”


141 posted on 07/08/2023 3:59:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: amnestynone

The so-called referenda conducted in four Russian-occupied regions in Ukraine cannot be considered legal under international law, the UN’s political affairs chief, Rosemary DiCarlo, told the Security Council on Tuesday.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1128161

BTW:
Exiled Russian oligarch says Putin went ‘insane’ after Ukrainians did not welcome his invasion and ‘meet him with flowers’ like he anticipated
Sarah Al-Arshani
business insider
Apr 3, 2022, 2:10 PM

https://www.businessinsider.com/exiled-russian-oligarch-putin-went-insane-after-ukraine-resisted-2022-4?op=1
-Ukrainian resistance to Putin’s invasion led him to go “insane,” a former Russian oligarch said.
-Mikhail Khodorkovsky told CNN that Putin expected to be met with “flowers” in Ukraine.
-”It not only just angered him, I really think it drove him literally insane,” Khodorkovsky said.

“An exiled Russian oligarch said Putin went “insane” after he anticipated that the people of Ukraine would “meet him with flowers” when he invaded the country.

“At first, what he wanted was to change the power in Kyiv, put in his puppet, and was expecting that this would be met with flowers thrown in the streets by Ukrainian people,” Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the former CEO of the Russian oil giant Yukos, told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria on Sunday.

Khodorkovsky — who was once the richest man in Russia, and was imprisoned for nine years on charges of fraud and tax evasion until his release in 2013 — has been an outspoken critic of Putin. He has said his imprisonment was politically motivated.

He told Zakaria that when Ukrainians resisted the invasion, Putin went crazy.

“The fact that the people in Kharkiv did not meet him with flowers, it not only just angered him, I really think it drove him literally insane. That’s when he started bombing Kharkiv and Kyiv,” Khodorkovsky said.

Khodorkovsky said Putin has three ways out of this crisis: continue to pressure Ukraine, use weapons of mass destruction to force Ukrainians to retreat, or start “actual” negotiations.

Last month the exiled oligarch said the war in Ukraine would lead to Putin’s downfall.

“I’m convinced that Putin hasn’t got much time left. Maybe a year, maybe three,” he told CNN.

Former Russian Deputy Energy minister Vladimir Milov told CNN’s Erin Burnett top officials in the Russian government are “personally devastated” by Putin’s aggression in Ukraine, adding it was only a matter of months before Putin lost his grasp on power.”


142 posted on 07/08/2023 4:13:42 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: amnestynone

Jul 3 at 03:45, in the Zaporozhye region, one officer killed another in order to surrender to the Ukrainians:

The emergency occurred at the front near the contact line with the enemy. A group of about 90 people mobilized suffered serious losses as a result of the Ukrainian shelling. Their commander decided to save people’s lives and surrender.

Another officer, whose unit was nearby, spoke out against it. As a result, there was a skirmish between the two commanders, which escalated into a shootout. The first of the officers shot the second. After that, he, along with 53 mobilized, surrendered to the Ukrainians.

The Russian military is concerned that the surrendered officer will reveal secrets to the enemy that will be useful to the APU during the offensive in the Zaporozhye region. At the same time, unfortunately, they state that even the detachments that operate at the front cannot solve the problem of desertion and surrender to the enemy of the Russian military.


143 posted on 07/08/2023 4:19:10 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Better pray for something else first.

I will end the Russia Ukraine war in 24 hours.

Donald J. Trump


145 posted on 07/08/2023 8:25:04 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: This_Dude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_of_genocide_in_Donbas

Hey Ivan, stop spreading Russian propaganda. The Ukies did not massacre Russians in Russian speaking areas and the Russia speakers do not want to become a part of Russia. That is why when Russia loses that country will likely dissolve just like the old Soviet Union did. Total hog wash. So get your own head out of your ass and stop listening to Russian propaganda. I suspect that you are living in Russia and that is all you hear. But there are many people in that (your) country that want out. There is o excuse for ignorance.

146 posted on 07/08/2023 8:25:20 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Steven Tyler
No they aren't. The Russian invaded Crimea in 2014 and they are the aggressors. Learn your history and stop listening to Russian propaganda that is just plain stupid and so are you if you believe that.
147 posted on 07/08/2023 8:29:21 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Vaduz

“I will end the Russia Ukraine war in 24 hours.”

Trump has said much on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Don’t forget who sent the first Javelins [missiles] out...it was Donald Trump.

More recently, he called what’s happening in Ukraine a “holocaust.” Also Trump has said many times that the war would never have happened if he were still president.


148 posted on 07/08/2023 11:23:20 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Trump has said many times that the war would never have happened if he were still president.

And it didn’t they knew better Biden owns that war.


149 posted on 07/08/2023 11:47:44 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz
"Biden owns that war" No, Putin owns the war.
150 posted on 07/08/2023 2:37:12 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: amnestynone

REMEMBERING the 2014 start of Ukraine Invasion [Putin empire planning began much earlier:

Ukraine soldiers engage in test of wills with Russian troops
By William Booth
March 4, 2014
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraine-airmen-engage-in-test-of-wills-with-russian-troops/2014/03/04/41990a30-a3ad-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

Col. Yuliy Mamchuk, commander of the Ukrainian military garrison at the Belbek airbase, and a colleague with led the regiment to confront troops under Russian command Tuesday.

BELBEK, Ukraine — A tense and dangerous test of wills took place Tuesday on a rainy hilltop at a dilapidated Cold War-era airfield here, as Ukrainian soldiers confronted Russian troops and demanded to be allowed to return to their base.
Just a few hours after the 5 a.m. deadline reportedly issued by Russia’s Black Sea Fleet for Ukrainian troops in Crimea to switch their allegiance from the new government in Kiev to the pro-Russian leadership in Crimea, the first shots of the conflict were fired into the air here by a pro-Russia militiaman.

Russia denied imposing any such ultimatum.

No one was injured in the continuing impasse, but there were tense moments as the two sides faced off, and Ukrainian troops were forced to choose between their oath to Ukraine and their feelings of affinity with Russia.

Video shows the dramatic moments of a tense standoff between Ukrainian soldiers and Russian forces who took control of an airbase in Crimea.

At the Belbek air base, the Ukrainians chose duty.

At the harbor in nearby Sevastopol, a trio of Ukrainian navy vessels spent the night before the ultimatum deadline trapped at a dock as Russian minesweepers and Russian navy tugboats passed back and forth across their bows, blocking their exit.

On Tuesday morning, the Russian rescue and salvage ship Epron cut close to the docks and blasted its klaxon.
Officers of the Ukraine command ship U510 Slavutych said that during the middle of the night, five Russian navy ships from the Black Sea Fleet harassed them, shining search lights at the vessels. The Ukrainian sailors mounted water hoses and mattresses, saying they would repel boarders. They vowed not to surrender their ship.

In addition to the blockade in Sevastopol harbor, Russian navy ships closed off the narrow Kerch Strait, which separates Ukraine’s Crimea Peninsula and Russia, Pavel Shishurin, deputy head of the Ukraine’s border guards.

At the Belbek air base, as Russian snipers assumed flanking positions and aimed their rifles, a column of Ukrainian soldiers marched forward and tried to return to their jobs at the airfield Monday.

The Ukrainians had arrived unarmed.
The Russians were bristling with weapons.

VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRvdmmwoeQE


151 posted on 07/08/2023 2:55:42 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: amnestynone

VICE NEWS did a photo-journalism on the ground coverage series in 2014 which provides great documentation:

Russian Roulette in Ukraine
VICE News
113 videos [on the ground coverage]
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zuC7Uwyv76h7R

Russia’s Little Green Men Enter Ukraine: Russian Roulette in Ukraine
VICE News
8.59M subscribers
6,370,599 views Mar 3, 2014
Russian Roulette S1 E1
http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News

Russia has invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and taken over its civilian and military infrastructure. Not a shot has been fired so far, but Russia is using its superior force to intimidate Ukrainian troops in an attempt to get them to surrender.


152 posted on 07/08/2023 3:31:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: amnestynone

The Uke’s started this war in 2014 and they are the aggressors. Learn your history and stop listening to Globalist/Uke propaganda that is just plain stupid and so are you if you believe that.


153 posted on 07/08/2023 5:19:16 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler

Hey Ivan, learn your own history it was in 2014 that Russia invaded Crimea, you started the war not Ukraine. Of course all you now is on Russia today. Stop being an idiot and worse.


154 posted on 07/08/2023 5:47:16 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

Hey Andriy, learn your own history it was in 2014 that Ukraine launched a scheme to cleanse Russians from their historical lands. Yes, Ukraine started this war not Russia. Of course all you now is on Ukraine today. Stop being an idiot and worse!!


155 posted on 07/08/2023 6:01:11 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler

That is a Russian lie. Russia invaded Crimea because they wanted to take over. The only people who say that are the Russians and even if you are a Russian and believe that you are an idiot. There is no evidence to support that it is a bald faced lie.


156 posted on 07/08/2023 6:20:56 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

That is a Uke. Uke launched a genocide targeting Russians. The only people who say that are the Uke’s and even if you are a Uke and believe that you are an idiot. There is no evidence to support whatever delusions you spew. Everything you spew is a bald faced lie!!!!!!1


157 posted on 07/08/2023 7:14:33 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: tennmountainman
He's a Last Worder.

Just another Ukie POS.

158 posted on 07/08/2023 11:07:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Nope thanks to Biden’s stupidity he caused it by not forcing Russia to back off.

Biden has no clue of what he’s doing about any thing nor his crew of stooges he proves it with everything he does it’s why everything so so screwed up now.

The world wonders how the hell did that idiot get the job.


159 posted on 07/09/2023 7:37:36 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz

Biden is not really the issue you are trying to make him

Biden could not prevent Putin from the attempt to resurrect the defensive buffer he considers Ukraine to be. Projecting Biden into king of the world is foolish


160 posted on 07/09/2023 7:43:29 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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