[DiogenesLamp]

to end slavery. Ironically, the Confederates' attempt to preserve slavery precipitated its abolition.

So you keep saying while you deliberately ignore the fact the USA Congress voted to pass a slavery forever amendment.

All they had to do to keep slavery forever was stay in the Union.

But you don't care about truth. You only care about what you wish to believe.

For a guy/gal who always claims not to have dog in this fight, no relatives or ancestors on either side you always come down of the side of these Southern scoundrels, don't you?

That is because the evidence shows *THEY* were in the right, and the people who invaded them to subjugate them were in the wrong.

And slavery has nothing to do with why the DC corruption cartel invaded them.

[jmacusa]

No Lampster, the South was NOT in the right. There is no constitutional right to secede, enslaving an entire race made a mockery of our stated intention to be a nation of free people, of all races and the Confederacy opened hostilities by firing on Ft. Sumter.

When you initiate an aggressive course of open and armed conflict, one you have every intention of winning then you must assume that your opponent will come at you with every thing he's got and you, the aggressor will be invaded and occupied when the fortunes of war turn against you, the aggressor. Just as the Confederacy did in June/July 1863 when it moved aggressively into Maryland and then on into Pennsylvania. They were the aggressor. And they got their butts kicked. The South bought this on themselves. And so Professor let me ask you something: If the South had won it's war of aggression against the Union would it have continued the system of slavery or would it have ended it? What say you , Reb?