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To: DiogenesLamp

They did. They picked a morally poor reason. But they did.

I also think the other states had a right to say nope. If the south would have won they would have secured their right. But they didn’t.

Put it this way. The colonies had moral right on their side for the revolution, for many reasons. The south had no such moral reasons. They all insisted they’d never give up slavery, so thats what it boiled down to.


25 posted on 06/29/2023 4:53:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They did. They picked a morally poor reason. But they did.

So we have been continuously told by the people who profited from the war.

I also think the other states had a right to say nope.

Is this like Freedom of Speech, where other people can say "no" to your right to speak?

It seems to me that if something is a right, other people cannot say "no." If they can say "no", it isn't a right.

Yes, the strongest people can always impose their will on others, but if we are talking about rule by the strongest, let us speak no more of "rights."

Put it this way. The colonies had moral right on their side for the revolution, for many reasons.

Well that would depend on how you felt about perpetual allegiance to the king and loyalty to your country. I doubt the British agreed they had good moral reasons.

Oh, and all 13 states were slave states at the time.

The south had no such moral reasons.

Again, so we've been told by the people who profited from the War. I have gotten to the point where I no longer simply accept things I have been told by people with self interest in the matter.

They all insisted they’d never give up slavery, so thats what it boiled down to.

You think so? So why did the Northern controlled Congress vote to pass the Corwin Amendment which would guarantee permanent slavery in the United States?

Sounds like the government was totally fine with slavery forever.

37 posted on 06/29/2023 5:04:11 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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