Posted on 06/18/2023 10:10:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
As many as 32,000 former prisoners have returned home after their contracts with Russian mercenary group Wagner expired, the group's founder Yevgeny Prigozhin said on June 18, as cited by his press office.
Prigozhin added that the prisoners whose Wagner contracts expired had committed 83 crimes after they returned to Russia. He claimed that this crime rate is less than for other former convicts.
In January Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to Presidential Office head Andriy Yermak, said that nearly 80% of Russian prisoners recruited by Wagner had been killed, injured, or captured by Ukraine.
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“As many as 32,000 former prisoners have returned home after their contracts with Russian mercenary group Wagner expired”
“In January Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to (Ukraine) Presidential Office head Andriy Yermak, said that nearly 80% of Russian prisoners recruited by Wagner had been killed, injured, or captured by Ukraine.”
So, let’s see - that’s 32,000 making it back to Russia safely, and 4 times that number, 128,000 being killed, injured, or captured by Ukraine. That makes 160,000 Wagners, all in Bakhmut (since we didn’t hear about them anywhere else).
Dudes must have been tripping over each other, left and right.
Yep, more great reporting out of Ukraine!
Who can blame em
Boy they have been on the line a while
The numbers I had read were that only 5000 out of 50,000 of the convicts recruited by Wagner survived to get their paroles.
Most likely 100,000 dead for the Ukrainians.
This is a Russian report. Go take it up with them.
This does not say whether some of those 32,000 includes those that have been evacuated due to wounds or sickness. I would assume that many have been if this a complete accounting of returned personnel.
If that’s so, and we assume that 32,000 consists of 50% evacuated casualties, then the total number of Wagner recruited prisoners was 80,000. Over a period of @9 months of constantly feeding in replacements and evacuating casualties in a Corps-size unit this is plausible. Similar wastage rates and replacement rates happened for US Army divisions in the ETO. The death/capture number would then be 48,000.
If 24,000 out of 32,000 are evacuated casualties then the total Wagner number is 40,000, with 8,000 dead. That yields a 3:1 ratio of wounded to dead, which is in line with military experience.
So it’s probable that the 32,000 include a large part of the 80%. Or perhaps the 80% is overstated. Or the 32,000 is overstated. Or understated. Who knows. Its a data point.
Could the entire story be propaganda?
It comes from Prigozhins PR people.
If course it could be completely made up.
Who knows what political points Prigozhin is after with this.
In large part, when we hear Russian discussions, we are eavesdropping on an entirely separate argument than what’s going on among us. Their purposes are mainly their power struggles among themselves, not the war against the Ukrainians.
“Mykhailo Podolyak”
Snort
Probably sleeping in bunker after what happened to Budanov
“Kyiv Independent”
Nah, honest manure straight from the end of the horses running Ukraine
Dude, at least know which side of the propaganda machine these spokesmen are speaking from. This is Kiev’s version
However
From the source:
“In May, Prigozhin said that about 10,000 prisoners, or one fifth of the total number of prisoners recruited by Wagner, had been killed on the battlefield in Ukraine.”
Not all Wagner are redemption conscripts.
Prig says his force will be back in battle in August.
Putin is 70. So there will be a power struggle in Russia after Putun's death.
There is a Kiev version of Prigozhins PR office?
Damn, that’s genius.
“This is a Russian report. Go take it up with them.”
Not the 80% number...that’s from Ukraine.
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