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I've seen numbers estimated at 60 million several years ago. During the Trump administration, I think they pegged it at more than 27 million, which was consistent with a Yale study. I have recall reading several years ago that over 25% of the Mexican population had moved to and were now in the US. With the numbers crossing the border, with skyrocketing housing costs from competition with illegal aliens, with the crowds of non-English speaking people crowding every Walmart, I sadly suspect all of these numbers are very low.

I've seen reports that government gives those released at the border working papers, so employers are not hiring them illegally, but I haven't seen any report on how many have been issued. The government is hiding the size of the invasion.

So, my question here is how many are here? What have you seen reported and what is your estimate.

And, food for thought, can they be deported? If 60 million, to remove them in four years, that would be over 41,000 per day. In recent years how many have ever been deported on a single day. I vaguely recall seeing a number around 1,000 to a couple thousand. Anwya, the only way I see that happening on a mass scale is to starve them out by rescinding any working papers and implement eVerify for all current workers, part-time, full-time, temporary, or permanent for all employers. If the courts would let that occur, let them self-deport.

1 posted on 06/10/2023 8:37:31 AM PDT by Reno89519
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70 to 80 millon


2 posted on 06/10/2023 8:39:20 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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The only way to reduce is going to be to change the deportation laws to eliminate the full trial part and then put a bounty on them of say $1000 to whoever turns them in. Once turned in they get injected with a scannable chip that would prevent them from ever returning. This last step would have a lot of them self deport to prevent getting the chip.

This all would mean that we would need some legal opinions published that indicate the US Constitution only applies to citizens and legal residents or visitors.


4 posted on 06/10/2023 8:43:55 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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WTFM....
Way Too...


5 posted on 06/10/2023 8:44:01 AM PDT by sonova (That's what I always say sometimes.)
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*. _____. -

*. Trump Supporters =

*. Illegals


6 posted on 06/10/2023 8:46:13 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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I would guess 40 to 50 million, easy. Of course, some are or were minors when they came here and didn’t have much choice in the matter.


7 posted on 06/10/2023 8:47:45 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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3 California’s worth. Their presence impacts every legislative district. Effectively represented by 130 members of Congress.


10 posted on 06/10/2023 8:51:03 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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Approaching 100 million, if not there already.


11 posted on 06/10/2023 8:51:12 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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I have seen that 60 million number years ago. It seemed like a credible estimate, possibly a little high.

Not anymore. We seem to be getting 10,000 illegal immigrants per day at peak rates. It is a massively organized industry with tacit support from the US Government. The illegals are showing up everywhere in this country.

I suppose we have 70-80 million illegals in country right now. We are not going to deport them. This migration is explicitly supported by our political elites. It is happening because they want it to happen.

They are all future Democrat "voters".

13 posted on 06/10/2023 8:55:23 AM PDT by flamberge (It turns out that you can fool most of the people, most of the time.)
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Russia was overthrown with 300 men from the lower east side of New York, funded with 30 million dollars. We have allowed millions of military aged men into our country with no means of support. If you feed them, house them and arm them, how will they be stopped if they have been recruited and are here to overthrow America?


14 posted on 06/10/2023 8:59:11 AM PDT by usual suspect
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https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/05/20/central-american-towns-empty-as-migrants-rush-to-u-s-border-loopholes/

https://assumpta.org/en/news/immigration-summit-laments-empty-central-american-towns

All to get on that US taxpayer funded gravy train, once they show up with some kids and pop out a citizen or three in a US hospital.

Among all the great ideas to stop this insanity....tell AMLO that the US is going to set up field hospitals on the Mexican side of the border, have Doctors Without Borders staff them, and test every female to see if they’re pregnant. If they are, they get world class medical-place to live-food-kids go to school-no violence from gangs...and they have the kid on the Mexican side of the border. Thereby preventing being able to give birth to a US citizen.

No collecting Section 8 and all the other benefits that the newly born US citizen gets upon birth. No getting settled in some town in the US that used to be nice but has been turned into a favela. No family reunification. No Medicare. No free breakfast and lunch at the local elementary school that had to hire bilingual teachers and raised property taxes.

Lets see how many show up for that deal.


17 posted on 06/10/2023 9:05:46 AM PDT by qaz123
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"How Many Illegal Aliens Are In The US Today?"

Less than the number of traitorous Demonicrats and RINOcrats.

18 posted on 06/10/2023 9:13:43 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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Well know for sure when they are allowed to vote.


19 posted on 06/10/2023 9:15:02 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Remember that for decades the media quoted the 11mm figure in any article that touched on the illegal population subject. As recently as the early 2000s some financial institutions, folks whose product sales depend on accurate demographic numbers, were using 40mm as their estimate. I believe the financials. Of course the number has ballooned since then as your tax bill indicates.

The best way to clear them out is to restrict any gubmint services to USA citizens only. Other than emergency medical care no welfare, EBT, etc should be available to any non-citizen. No freebies, no illegal immigration. Most will self deport, others will turn to crime to feed themselves. However when petty theft comes with a possible death sentence because an illegal tries to rob a gun-carrying citizen, the survivors should get the message and leave.

I suppose a small fund could be set up so self-deportees can have a few dollars in their pocket for their trip back.

In the meantime if the Rs had any sense they would have a plan to get these ‘new arrivals’ to become more conservative so that gawd forbid they ever get to vote maybe a few will see the light.


21 posted on 06/10/2023 9:18:21 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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The 2020 US Census listed a historic record of at least 74 million foreign born living in the USA. This did not include the 6 million more illegals that came in under Puppet Biden since 2020.

The Census was not allowed to record the immigration status of those 74 million (Trump tried to get it in but an activist leftwing judge disallowed it), so it’s a given that at least half of those foreign born are not US citizens.

This would put the figure today at around 43 million illegal aliens. The great replacement IS HAPPENING! You cannot go anywhere in the USA today without bumping into an illegal alien at some point. The vast majority of those illegals are socialist and get registered as democrats as soon as they apply for a government assistance program.

It is far too late to turn this around. The ONLY THING that will stop the impending leftwing dictatorship is a gift from above or mushroom clouds hovering over Washington DC.


22 posted on 06/10/2023 9:19:21 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers | 2023 Cost Study
23 posted on 06/10/2023 9:21:02 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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At this point, who cares.

Cut off all their benefits, rescind the fraudulent citizenship bestowed up on their kids, tax any remittance to their home countries at 75% and watch the largest, longest and most beautiful Trail of Tears, back to the southern border that anyone can imagine.


25 posted on 06/10/2023 9:22:02 AM PDT by qaz123
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Go to any state park in Texas on the weekend and you will see a complete takeover of the park by illegals


27 posted on 06/10/2023 9:23:43 AM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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1) We worked within the system.

2) The criminal illegal aliens and their enablers the Democrats did not and still do not.

If we continue with these two facts in unison then we are barred from a solution.


33 posted on 06/10/2023 9:44:17 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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Remember, for about 20 or 30 years, they kept saying 11 million illegals. Like not one was added that entire time?

As others have written, probably at least 80 million at this point.


39 posted on 06/10/2023 9:52:20 AM PDT by Joann37
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Hey, take it easy. The Democrats were running out of dead voters so they had to look elsewhere.


42 posted on 06/10/2023 9:53:43 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (AS )
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