Posted on 06/04/2023 4:24:34 PM PDT by Mariner
Problem is,the kind of people who build fallout shelters are the last people you’d really want to survive.
A really entertaining, well written and researched 50’s bomb shelter “survival”. Complete with the IBM pocket pen holder and horn rim glasses. Walken was a real hoot, and delivered, and Spacek a believable alkie bomb shelter stuck wifey.
Very funny scenes. Just remember— “try to find a Pasadena girl— they are “normal”... or some such. Rose Bowl parade era- when things were.
Yep. I was in grade school in the '60s & we did the duck and cover thing as well.
Interesting. Some people will choose to survive with less damage. Others will live with more.
I’m in the group that feels thankful I’m near a big target - I’ll never know what happened.
Why?
And then, there’s the larger version...
Man buries 42 School buses to build largest nuclear fallout shelter!
10 to 1 ratio, and they must be chosen on their looks. 💕
Four days...you need to keep isolated indoors for at least four days...that’s how long it takes for most of the dangerous fallout to decay to safe levels. Longer is better...but four days is an absolute minimum.
Unless your underground shelter (where your desk is located) is air-tight, the blast from the nuclear explosion will suck out the oxygen, even though the shelter is strong enough (and far enough away from ground zero) to survive the blast.
Also, unless you have sufficient compressed air tanks and CO2 scrubbers in the shelter, your air ventilation system will need to have HEPA and charcoal filters designed to trap fallout particulates and volatile fission decay products (e.g., I-131).
Portable power (and sufficient fuel) for A/C will also be needed. If your shelter has a water supply from an underground well, that is a plus.
Living at and having a fallout shelter located somewhere just east of the Rockies (but not near Cheyenne Mountain Complex) may also minimize the chances of an enemy nuclear weapon landing nearby.
I think you wrote a similar post in a thread last week. Might've been you, maybe someone else. But it's the same message.
The line "wait for you in the tree line." stuck on my mind. I was also watching some lousy apocalypse movie. There was a dad with a daughter. The daughter believed the dad was a good guy. But the dad would go "hunting"...and shoot strangers from a distance with a scoped rifle. Then he would rummage thru their belongs, take what he wanted and return to camp.
What I came to realize is, you're exactly right. Doesn't matter if you're in your "safe house", trying to navigate across terrain or with a lot of friends. Somebody with a rifle can take you out.
We considered a house we saw on Zillow. It was big, brick, on ten acres, with a very wide swath of cleared land all around the house. I see now, that would not have been a safe place. (Somebody else got it first.)
Thank you for waking me up to the possibility of "He’ll grab a rifle, and wait for you in the tree line.".
Perhaps— but not in this scenario: notably a well trained physician was prepared and built. Psychodrama of different “types” of chaotic citizens.
“The Shelter” (Twilight Zone) 4 min selection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynm328OGxbs
The Shelter is Liberalism in a nutshell.
I remember that episode well. Friends became enemies in just an hour or so. That’s the way it’ll happen in real life also.
Be flippant if you want, but the Soviets were much more aware of and dedicated to civil defense than we ever were. Â They had exercises where they evacuated whole cities. Â They had plans to ship factories to wilderness lands and bulldozed dirt over the machines to recover them for the times after the nuclear exchange had ended. Â They had TV public service instructions teaching the people how to shelter during a nuclear blast. Â Civil Defense was a branch of their military forces with the ability to martial all resources when needed.
With that kind of heritage and legacy I believe they would have far more survivors than we would with our bend over and kiss yourself goodbye mentality. Â That thought actually disgusts me.
"I must confess you have an astonishingly good idea there doctor."
Remember the 1980’s and Helen Caldicott and Carl Sagan, “In a nuclear war were ALL going to die their will be no survivors”
Liberals now, nuclear war? its just a flesh wound.
Such a good movie, it just may turn out to be a guidebook, LOL.
I suppose the only truly safe places in the event of a nuclear apocalypse would be on a large deserted island or way back in the wilderness (either would make for a good movie).
But that would also mean no more blood pressure medicine, no more craft beer, and no more online poker to pass the time. So I guess I’d be in deep trouble.
Or a septic system.
Don’t forget their subway shelter system, too.
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