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Great men are not [always] wise... () (for some reason Bible verse references are being removed when going to preview) In this case, it was Chinese leadership that acted wisely in its own interest,

Israel [America] hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. (Hosea 8:3-4)
For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up. Yea, though they have hired among the nations, now will I gather them, and they shall sorrow a little for the burden of the king of princes. Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin. I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. (Hosea 8:7, 10-12)
For Israel hath forgotten his Maker, and buildeth temples; and Judah hath multiplied fenced cities: but I will send a fire upon his cities, and it shall devour the palaces thereof. (Hosea 8:14)

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil. ()

1 posted on 05/11/2023 3:43:49 AM PDT by daniel1212
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2 posted on 05/11/2023 3:44:43 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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When we eventually get into a hot war with China then we will hang all of these Free Traitors™.
3 posted on 05/11/2023 3:45:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Great men? None of these people are/were great. What?


4 posted on 05/11/2023 3:49:27 AM PDT by stanne
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Most of the problems we have have been created by the Washington consensus of years ago between the repubs and dems. China, amnesties, trade, spending, debt, wars, etc etc. Voting for Democrats and Republicans destroys America.


23 posted on 05/11/2023 4:29:54 AM PDT by Theoria
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The only path by which China should be accorded a permanent trade agreement, is for China to give up the “emerging nation” designation, and be held to the same account and standards for their contribution to worldwide pollution as is the United States and the EU. China is not and has not been an “emerging nation” for some time now. Either they stand up on their own two feet and do business like the big boys, or they withdraw into their own shell, and become a bigger version of North Korea.

Nobody wants that.


27 posted on 05/11/2023 4:59:02 AM PDT by alloysteel (Fiction has to be at least plausible, while reality obeys no such constraint.)
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In Nixon’s defense, I believe he opened China to the West as a wedge against the Soviet Union.


32 posted on 05/11/2023 6:14:52 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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The only former prez I begin to trust on China should by rights be our current prez.


35 posted on 05/11/2023 6:56:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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