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To: gas_dr

“Our study highlights the importance of preventing, looking for and aggressively treating secondary bacterial pneumonia in critically ill patients with severe pneumonia, including those with COVID-19”

Well no kidding. You would think a competent M.D. would know this.

AFAIK no one here came up with “cykotine storm” That was health care professionals. THEY are the ones whose lame claim was that “there’s no treatment that can stop this”. Not anyone on Free Republic. With possible exceptions from the shot shills. I’m not going through all your posts. Or others.

Maybe I’m reading it wrong(but I think not), that this study said ventilators did more harm than good.

Heck. Maybe this study is just B.S. But it’s sad to me that somehow you can come out and say “See, I told you all along!”

Talk about reinventing history.


71 posted on 05/08/2023 12:18:19 PM PDT by saleman
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To: saleman

There are actually quite aggressive protocols around preventing VAP and have been for a long time. Weaning of sedation, awakening daily, early mobilization, oral care and trach in seven days are staples of these protocols. The problem was Covid gave such an impressive ARDS that high pressures were required to oxygenate the body. This means you can’t easily perform a trach. It was a hell of a catch 22. Let them die from ARDS and critical hypoxemia (life ending hypoxemia) or vent them knowing that high pressures were going to be likely

As for cytokine storm there was a period of many months when the usual folks couldn’t get off the topic and trumpeted this is why HCQ and IVM work. We used some IL-6 inhibitors as well but they didn’t do squat either. This study confirms those observations if correct.


74 posted on 05/08/2023 2:21:58 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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