[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "...the same tired old argument that vents kill blah blah blah"

Fine words from a supposed physician, whose "prescription" for others in an earlier thread (5/2/2023), was --- "...to shrug and move on. Which is the correct thing to do."

Medical mistakes have been tallied at the third or fourth cause of death over a number of years. Suggested "blah blah blah" reading:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139

[gas_dr]

Wow you conflate a bunch of things and misquote me

Shrug and move on was relative to what the population is doing. So your shameless lying and quoting out of context shows your intent to deceive. Quite a liberal you are

Medical malpractice is not an untoward outcome. It is a violation of a duty and standard of care. MVS is a standard of care in the treatment of ARDS

Jesus doesn’t like it when you lie. And lie you have with intent and malice. For shame.