I appreciate you sharing your life story, very interesting. But I have to say, I’m not sure I understand how it relates to what I said in my previous post regarding AVERAGE GENETIC differences between groups and the impact that can have on society and peaceful coexistence.
And regarding “group-think”, if you think my views and opinions come from whatever group I may identify with, you couldn’t be further from the truth. I march to the beat of my own drum. My world view is dictated by my lying eyes, life’s experience and facts. And I tend to be my own
toughest critic... I’m my own devil’s advocate. And I enjoy engaging people who have different opinions and world views, like you for example, because it tests my beliefs and whether I should change them in light of what the other person has to offer.
The only permanent groups I belong to are “humas” “caucasians” and “males’ and that’s because of genetics. I can’t change those.
Value based groups (cultures) that I identify with are conservatives, agnostics, rationalists, realists. But those groups don’t define me, in the sense that I’m a slave to them or that they dictate my beliefs. It’s the other way around - my beliefs came first, independent of those groups.
In other words my beliefs are formed by my lying eyes, life’s experience and facts and given those beliefs then an affinity for people who have the same beliefs is formed. That’s true of most people, although there are some cultures and religious traditions (islam for example) where a belief system is forced on people and they have a hard time escaping.
My particular belief that I stated at the end of my last post to you, that...
“Two groups of people who...
1. have a significant difference in AVERAGE IQ, and
2. whose members can be easily identified as belonging to one or the other group,
will never be able to live in peaceful coexistence.
(Both conditions have to exist for this to be true)’
That doesn’t come from any group that I know, it’s my observation and my formulation. I have never seen it expressed using those two conditions that must be met. If you’ve seen it anywhere else please let me know.
I came up with it a couple of years ago, and no one that I’ve told it to has been able to discredit it. I’m more convinced of its truth than ever, for all the reasons I outlined in my last post.
It’s a tragic reality, but it’s a reality, and I wish it weren’t so, but sweeping it under the rug as we’ve been doing for decades has gotten us to the racial dystopia that we find ourselves in. I have absolutely no animosity toward any race - I’m only stating realities and conclusions that derive from that.
You keep bringing example of individuals from whatever group that in your experience were great people. No one denies that there are fine and smart people as well as dumb and vicious people of any race or group, but as I pointed out it isn’t a few individuals here and there that have societal implications, but the AVERAGE, the shape of the bell curve. You’re using the exception to make the rule!
I asked you last time whether you agreed or disagreed with my specific analysis of the race problem. I didn’t see any answer.
So I invite you again to look at my previous analysis and conclusion and tell me where I’ve gone wrong. Please be specific and address each point.
Group Tnink: See Groups, Judge by Groups.
A lot of the Anerican culture comes from the religious belief that individuals persons accept Christ as their Saviour.
That extrapolates to judge the individual, not the group.
Don’t think of the average American or average Presbyterian and Saved or Not Saved. It is the individualk, not the group that is saved.