“The skin color group is irrelvant.”
I see why you have trouble grasping the race problem. You think that its about the skin color.
People are not prejudiced against what we call “blacks” because of their skin color - it’s what’s CORRELATED with that skin color (and other features such as face, hair etc) that is crucial. And tragically one of the thing that is correlated with that group is that that group’s AVERAGE IQ is a full standard deviation lower than those that we identify as whites. And IQ correlates quite strongly with success in life. (There are other attributes as well that correlate with success)
Those we identify as Asians on the other hand have a somewhat higher group AVERAGE IQ than whites.
And, by the way, to return to skin color, many Indians (from India) are as dark and even darker than most blacks, but nobody confuses them as blacks, because Indian faces are like white faces except darker, so they’re easily identifiable as being other than black. This is another example that the prejudice against black is not simply because of their skin color. Thus Indians don’t face such prejudice. And Indians in the US have a quite high IQ and as you know they are doing rather well here
Now you might say, who gives a crap about averages and distributions of IQ of the various group. I deal with individuals and using my judgement I only deal with who I perceive as being good and smart, regardless of what group they belong to.
And that’s fine and laudable. But society as a whole doesn’t have the luxury of selecting only the good and bright of each group. We, as a society, have to deal with the whole distribution of the population of each group.
And what are the consequences of that?
Let’s assume that there is absolutely no discrimination of people whether at work or at school. Given the significant IQ differences between blacks and whites...
- which group do you think will end up having the most of the menial jobs?
- which group do you think will do worse at school and have the most dropouts?
- which group will occupy most the lower economic rungs of society?
I’m going to guess that you will say the identifiable group with the significantly lower IQ.
Now (we’re almost at the end) given these real life results, how do you think members of the group that in their eyes is getting shafted are going to react?
Do you think they might get a bit upset at seeing so many of their “brothers” (including themselves) doing so poorly in society, especially when they’re constantly told that on average there are no significant differences among the races?
Do you think they might start raising hell, riot and demand “justice”?
Is that not what we’ve been seeing throughout most of our history and even more so today? And that that will only continue?
And what about the easily bamboozled and guilted, pathologically compassionate whites who also see these same big discrepancies in performance, are they not going to join force with the “oppressed” group and always cave to whatever the oppressed group demands for more welfare reparations, etc?
Is this not the state we find ourselves today?
To put all this in a nutshell, here’s the rule I’ve come up with...
“Two groups of people who...
1. have a significant difference in AVERAGE IQ, and
2. whose members can be easily identified as belong to one or the other group,
will never be able to live in peaceful coexistence.
(Both conditions have to exist for this to be true)
Do you agree? If not tell me where I went wrong.
I guess my upbringing just didn’t learn about the group-think that dominates your world-view.
I grew up south of Seattle WA in an areas of many East and SE Asians, Native Americans (we called them Indians back then), many Swedes, a few Mexicans and Blacks and a few of every other “group” you can name. But I didn’t learn to think of these as “groups” Until I came to Chicago at age 20.
To the extent we thought of “group” we saw Catholics, Main stream Protestants and Fundamentalists, Bhuddists, etc. Most East Asians were Protestant. Most Fillipinos were Catholic. As a child, I worked the farm fields where my bosses were Catholic Fillipinos and Japanese Bhuddists. So they were “more” due to proximity. Both the Japanese and Filipinos immigrated to the US in 1930s. But the Filipinos held it against the Japanese that they invaded the Fillipines after both types of immigrants had left the homeland.
All of us kids of all nationalities that worked the fields saw it as illogical and weird that people who rejected the old country were still blamed for what those in the old country did.
My Dad’s best friend was a WWII vet who lost an eye. He was a one-eyed Greyhound Bus mechanic and a very good Bus driver.
He was admired by many for that. He also happened to be a Nisqually Indian who bagged deer with both rifle and bow.
His individual achievements way overshadowed his ethnicity.
I came to Chicago at age 20 and was shocked. The Poles, Irish and Italians were in 3 distinct and separate groups. The street gangs were ethnic. The Poles clearly divided into 2 religious groups.. 1) PNA where the clergy were servants and 2) PNA where the clergy were masters.
I was active in an Alinsky neighborhood group NCO Northwest Community Organization. It was easier to bring together for common action the extreme left (YPSL, YSA and right John Birchers) than mainline Democrat Italians and Democrat Irish. The PNA Republicans (and me) were Goldwater libertarian Republicans. We were the glue that held the Democrat groups together.
I learned group-think as if Margaret Mead anthropoligist looking in from the outside. I never aceppted it. It was not only Democrat think...It was the worst kind of Democrat, the mindless obedient machine Democrat.
2013 I moved to GA. It is interesting to see the Democrats who switched parties but still have that group think and are now in the Republican Party, which also has a wing that lacks (for the most part) that group think.
Republican economic policies created many jobs in GA, as they did in other Red States. Democrat economic policies killed jobs in many northern states. So jobless Democrats who want to work and not go on welfare voted against Democrat economics and for Republican economics in moving to jobs in GA.
Enough of these Democrat immigrants are ripe for switching to the Republican party, especially and economics, but also on guns and maybe other social issues. But the GA Republicans who used to be Democrats and still have Democrat Group-think are extremely unfriendly toward these potential converts.
The result is that red GA is turning Blue. The Republican issues are on our side. But half the GA Republican party is not ready to accept them.
Two Trump backed high profile candidates Vernon Jones and Herschel Walker faced this. The Democrat media, of course, race baited the half of Republicans that retain the Group-think. So Republicans who would normally be expected to back a Trump driven candidate did not vote for the Trump candidate. They could not get over their group-think that they acquired as a kid.