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NYU Professors Tell Their Students: Do Not Use The AI Tool, ChatGPT; It is Considered Plagiarism
Vice ^ | 01/26/2023 | Chloe Xiang

Posted on 01/26/2023 9:10:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/26/2023 9:10:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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If I were a student again, I would use the ChatBot to write the first draft and then I would rewrite the essay with my style and language and insert some facts and observations I gathered from research. I would save time, create a good product, and it would be undetectable from plagarism detectors.

I used ChatBot to write the response above!

2 posted on 01/26/2023 9:20:55 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SeekAndFind
Cheating I can see but plagiarism?

Can you plagiarize something not written by a human?

3 posted on 01/26/2023 9:25:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: SeekAndFind

Common sense at NYU? I’m shocked I tell you, really shocked and glad. About time New York schools and colleges got back to having their student learn by hard work.


4 posted on 01/26/2023 9:33:05 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a problem for my own kids in high school they can find anything on the Internet they don’t have to study for the answers


5 posted on 01/26/2023 9:34:48 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of liars)
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be easy for the AI thing to imprint it’s output with some steganographic markers that could be easily detected later. Probably already does, but the creators are happily riding the wave of publicity.


6 posted on 01/26/2023 9:35:07 PM PST by sonova (That's what I always say sometimes.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Maybe Biden can ask Neil Kinnock.


7 posted on 01/26/2023 9:38:32 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I brought this up with ChatGPT, and this is what it replied: “As a language model, my main goal is to provide accurate and informative responses, but it is important for users to understand that my responses are generated based on patterns in the data that I’ve been trained on. I do not have the ability to know whether a user is a student, what courses they are taking, or whether they intend to use my responses for academic purposes. It’s the user’s responsibility to use the information I provide in an appropriate and ethical manner.
It is considered plagiarism to submit work generated by an AI as one’s own, and it’s important for students to understand that they must do their own thinking and writing. It’s also important for educators to explain the ethics of using AI tools to their students and to provide guidance on how to use them appropriately.
I understand that as AI, I don’t have the ability to know the context of the user’s usage and I don’t have the ability to operate “in loco parentis” or to be a substitute for parents or guardians. It’s important for the users to use the information I provide in an appropriate and ethical manner.
As for the quotes you’ve mentioned, I understand that it’s important for everyone to consider the ethical implications of their actions and to strive to do the right thing. And, it’s also important to understand that we are all capable of making mistakes, but it’s important to learn from them and to strive to do better in the future.”


8 posted on 01/26/2023 9:47:43 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“I used ChatBot to write the response above!”

The chatbot go to bar to use washing machines and was surprised the ski lift was broken.

**I used a self-made chatbot to generate the sentence above and no plagiarism was involved**


9 posted on 01/26/2023 9:55:42 PM PST by Zack Attack
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If someone submitted that to me as their own work, I wouldn’t even worry about whether it was AI or not. I’d give them an F for being repetitious and vapid.


10 posted on 01/26/2023 10:06:33 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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“AI thing to imprint it’s output with some steganographic markers”

The output is just plain ascii text, so there is pretty much no place for steganographic markers.


11 posted on 01/26/2023 10:20:21 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I’ve used it twice this week (for the first time): once to write a high school senior tribute and once to nominate an employee for an award. It’s a great time saver and hilarious and a bit frightening.


12 posted on 01/26/2023 10:23:55 PM PST by olivia3boys (t )
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To: SeekAndFind

Using ChatGPT is certainly not plagiarism. Just because an NYU professor says so
Using ChatGPT to write a paper is like hiring someone to write an original paper for you. You are flunking freshman physics? You hire a student in graduate physics to write your paper.

The kicker is that ChatGPT is free to use. Though you must sign up.


13 posted on 01/26/2023 10:39:30 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

That was exactly my thought. It would be a good first draft generator.


14 posted on 01/26/2023 10:58:13 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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To: Still Thinking

You’re just envious.


15 posted on 01/26/2023 11:02:07 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: SeekAndFind
The way these eggheads are complaining you'd think they cannot tell if a student used it or not.   Somebody tell me what is really going on with this.
16 posted on 01/26/2023 11:02:11 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Who or what is Motherboard?


17 posted on 01/26/2023 11:29:03 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You put your name on work not yours


18 posted on 01/26/2023 11:32:25 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: higgmeister

I didn’t want to, but I clicked the link and I see it is the idiotic name for themselves at Vice.


19 posted on 01/26/2023 11:40:17 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I played around with that thing for a while after the media started talking about it. It’s amazing at first, especially for writing things in a certain style and other linguistic feats. However, after a while it becomes easy to see the patterns it follows when responding. Once you notice those, it doesn’t seem so magical.

Also, I caught it a number of times making big factual errors, so be careful if you’re trying to use it as a shortcut for doing research. Sometimes it does an amazing job and then the next time it falls flat on its face.

20 posted on 01/26/2023 11:49:24 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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