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To: aculeus
This statement ignores one other possibility, that the “aliens” are our future earthling descendants who have mastered time travel.

It also ignores the possibility that these "aliens" are from other dimensions. They may not even be physical beings (even though they seem to be able to become "physical" in our world).

Some folks who are deep into the weeds of this subject have been saying that consciousness itself is going to be redefined as we try to understand what we are dealing with here. I don't think anyone understands what the hell that means.;-)

One of the messages abductees have gotten over the years (assuming these people are not just victims of some kind of mass hypnosis) is that these "aliens" created us. Others have concluded that these "aliens" are tricksters and liars, so their message that they are our creators may be merely a ploy to destroy our existing concept of God/religion.

168 posted on 01/23/2023 1:49:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

“consciousness itself is going to be redefined as we try to understand what we are dealing with here. I don’t think anyone understands what the hell that means”

I can help with that. This topic is discussed in depth in these podcasts:

https://podbay.fm/p/point-of-convergence

https://podbay.fm/p/liminal-phrames

Short version—the “scientific” view of consciousness is that it is a product of human brains.

Scientists talking about consciousness in the brain are like folks taking apart a radio to look for the talking voices inside—a super dumb paradigm.

OK—so what is consciousness then?

The “alien contact” phenomenon suggests that our brains are receivers (hardware) but the consciousness “software” lies elsewhere.

So where is elsewhere?

The “new way of thinking about consciousness” (one of the aliens communications) is that the “software” is an integral part of nature, the universe’s way of viewing itself.

That makes all of us and all the aliens (and whoever else shares “consciousness”) related to each other—”software” cousins of some sort.

Consciousness has its own “rules” we do not understand—the “laws” of physics do not apply—so it can appear to be “magic”.


170 posted on 02/01/2023 8:26:52 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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