“Today DMT users are traveling there”
I think we agree on the concept but your use of words (imho) is more confusing than illuminating.
I don’t think we are talking about “there”—I think we are talking about “here”.
What DMT does is change what we perceive—we don’t “go” anywhere.
There is a lot of emerging evidence in evolutionary biology that discusses how homo sapiens must have limited perception to survive in the “everyday” world.
If you are driving in rush hour traffic on the freeway you need full focus on the task in front of you—you better not be diverted by strange beings that flicker by you at the edge of your perception.
So—I don’t think “we” are traveling anywhere to see them.
I don’t think “they” are traveling anywhere to see us.
I think the action is here—but our perception is limited.
Interesting and intelligent post ⭐
We are talking about 'here' and 'there.' They can at any time be all around us but since we are 'prisoners' of our senses we can't sense their presence.
On the other hand, some occult initiates have mastered the way of soul-traveling, meaning their soul leaves their body in order to travel within an unseen dimension that might be here or in another dimension entirely.
If you have watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy then you saw that when Frodo slipped on the One Ring he bodily disappeared while his soul traveled unseen among Orcs, etc. BTW, the One Ring had the power to cause Frodo to bodily disappear because it was invested with the power of Sauron, Melchor's (Satans) second in command.